From: bounce-scoliosis To: scoliosis-digest@ai.mit.edu Subject: scoliosis V1 #1080 Reply-To: Errors-To: bounce-scoliosis Precedence: bulk scoliosis Thursday, 21 January 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1080 Today's subjects for scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens: [none] [KKRUGER@ddiworld.com (KKRUGER)] Re: Massages [CarolPerk@aol.com] Re: Harrington aftereffects [Leah640@aol.com] Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] [Leah640@aol.com] Re: Nutrition & Exercise [HJEWEGL@aol.com] Re: Questions ["Dean A. Hoppenrath, DC" ] RE: Nutrition & Exercise [Grady Eileen P ] Options [NBiagini@aol.com] Re: Options ["Janis Maria C. C. Cortese" ] Re: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] [BettRich@aol.com] Re: Questions [JK Barnes ] Re: Questions [HugEBear36@aol.com] Re: Nutrition & Exercise [NBiagini@aol.com] Re: Options [NBiagini@aol.com] Re: Nutrition & Exercise [RSMVMD@aol.com] Re: Surgery [Pilmer ] Copes Foundation [Fortune_Duck@msn.com.au] Re: Nutrition & Exercise ["Dean A. Hoppenrath, DC" ] Re massage therapy [Jenny Billett ] Been to SRS doc ! [WinBai@aol.com] RE: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] [Sharon Kay Miller > Scarlett, If you neede to take the antiinflamatories and have wine just take the pills at least5 an hour before drinking, that is what I do, it sometimes makes me feel the wine a little more, thats all. Also I take my pills with a calsium supplememnt, it helps my stomach ( Like tums, but I take the vitamens). I also find that sometimes a few drinks will help my back too, it relaxes me. Leah ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Leah640@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:08:51 EST Subject: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] In a message dated 1/19/99 8:58:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Luver2me@aol.com writes: << What kind of massage is done for scoliosis. And isn't it embarrassing to have the massage therapist see your curvature on your naked back. >> Deep tissue massage, and they are done by a Pt, who I am sure has seen worse. I have the sc ar, and after 24+ years of it it doesnt bug me at all. Except when my almost 8 year old daughter asked me if she was going to have a line like that when she grows up. Leah ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: HJEWEGL@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:15:58 EST Subject: Re: Nutrition & Exercise I had my first surgery when I was 11, 33 years ago. It corrected the top of my s shaped curve, but my bottom was left at a 43 degree curve. After 3 children and 30 years, my bottom curve worsened to 68 degrees and an 80 degree curve towards my stomach. I had a 2 surgerys, 3 months ago to correct this, with good results. My question is how long do you wear the brace? My Dr. said at first, he didn't know if I would, then after the surgery, 3 months, and now he says 5 months. What is customary? Thanks, Bonnie ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Dean A. Hoppenrath, DC" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:00:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Questions OK, here is a brief spinal anatomy lesson... In the adult there are 5 regions in the spine. The first is the top most region called the Cervical Spine. It consists of 7 vertebrae with the top one (the atlas) connecting to the skull. They are numbered going down from C1 (the atlas) to C7. C7 then joins with T1, the first thoracic vertebra. There are 12 thoracic vertebrae starting at the base of the neck to the mid back, they coincide with the 12 sets of ribs (no women don't have more ribs then men). They, too, are numbered T1-T12. Another name for the Thoracic spine is the Dorsal spine (if dorsal is used the numbers are then D1-D12). T12 connects to L1, the first lumbar vertebra. The lumbars are much bigger than the other segments and are numbered L1-L5. It is not uncommon for people to have only 4 lumbar or 6 Lumbar (I have several patients in both groups). The lumbar area is where most herniated disc's occur. The 5th Lumbar attaches to the sacrum which is actually a group of 5-7 vertebrae that are fused in our development At the end of the sacrum is the Coccyx. This small bone is actually the fusion of 2-3 bones, that like the sacrum, fuse during development The coccyx is the bone that most commonly gives women a problem after child birth due to dislocation. Class dismissed, Next week maybe we will discuss the muscles of the back :o) Dr. Dean ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Grady Eileen P Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:46:13 -0400 Subject: RE: Nutrition & Exercise I have two curves - 55 and 56 degrees. I spoke with my dr yesterday about possible surgery. He indicated 1-2 weeks in the hospital, followed by 2-4 months in a brace. I would guess it varies depending on a variety of individual circumstances (including age? I'm now 34. He's saying I'll need it some time within the next several years). On another note, pain management is becoming an increasing challenge for me. I am in good shape, exercise regularly but...My L2, L3 are now touching, I've developed arthritis in my lower spine, and my "hump of steel" (the infamous lumbar hump) seems to get bigger and more painful on a daily basis. I love the scoliosis literature they print that says we have little to no pain! and the way doctors seem to tout this as well! I take little medication, given the chronicity have massage periodically. My massage therapist keeps pushing me toward chiropracty (which makes me very nervous) and a friend recently suggested acupuncture. Anyone have any experience with either of these? - -----Original Message----- From: HJEWEGL@aol.com@inetgw2 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 12:16 PM To: scoliosis@ai.mit.edu@inetgw2 Subject: Re: Nutrition & Exercise I had my first surgery when I was 11, 33 years ago. It corrected the top of my s shaped curve, but my bottom was left at a 43 degree curve. After 3 children and 30 years, my bottom curve worsened to 68 degrees and an 80 degree curve towards my stomach. I had a 2 surgerys, 3 months ago to correct this, with good results. My question is how long do you wear the brace? My Dr. said at first, he didn't know if I would, then after the surgery, 3 months, and now he says 5 months. What is customary? Thanks, Bonnie ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:26:16 EST Subject: Options In a message dated 1/19/99 11:41:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, cortese@netcom.com writes: << saying that when it reached 30 degrees, spinal fusion was the only option. >> Janis: I would strongly recommend that you also see a scoliosis specialist (ortho) as well - although certainly not the one you had seen! Depending on the area you live in, I am sure there are folks on this listserv that can recommend someone for you to see. It is worth the effort to check out all your options - fusion is not the only one and not the only option an orthopedist gives....... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Janis Maria C. C. Cortese" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 99 12:31:53 -0800 Subject: Re: Options NBiagini@aol.com writes: > >In a message dated 1/19/99 11:41:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, >cortese@netcom.com writes: > ... I'm going to go in on Feb 18th (just made the appt) to be evaluated for Marfan syndrome, finally. I'm seeing a cardiologist at UCSD Med Ctr first to get the echo and x-rays and things like that. We'll see what he says. I was going to look into the scoliosis first, but if it's part of Marfan, then that's what I need to look into now. Well, that plus the cardiac problems involved in Marfan syndrome trump the spinal problems for me at least, at the moment. I want to make sure my aorta is okay before I start messing with anything else. IF that's fine, then I can start looking into the spine more. Wish me luck, Janis ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: BettRich@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:53:45 EST Subject: Re: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] I am seventy, and has extensive bone fusions done in the forties for the worse curvature anyone has seen when a young teen. I should be a cripple so what do I have to complain about. Nothing because exercise and acupuncture has kept me sane, taller, straighter and more comfortable. I do two hours of physical therapy a day to strengthen muscles that will keep the strain off my back. These include strengthening abdominal muscles with tilts, arches, etc., scapula exercises, hamstring exercises, stretching exercises, and even some weight lifting combined with balancing stuff. Plus when weather permits, two hours of water aerobics and swimming, and two miles of walking. With this, I can stay largely pain free and active. I strongly recommend exercise that does not bend the back to all of you kids. Do not worry about your back looking bad. I used to hide mine when very young and was told by a cool World War II VET that I should not be embarrassed about my back any more than he was embarrassed about toes shot off at Anzio beachhead. I did not do it to myself. He made me go swimming without a wrap and guys still came on. I still try to cover up the humps with loose clothes because I feel better but I doubt it makes any difference to the viewers. Good luck. Remember we all are made different and hope we can get to place to say ''Viva la differencia'. I have not made it quite there but hope you kids will. dMassage sounds wonderful.. Have no tried that. Have pursued some of the suggestions made that have really helped such as a grabber and a triangular pillow and avoiding chairs with lumbar supports. Wish this support had been around when I was young. Thank you all for sharing and helping other. Betty in ALA. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: JK Barnes Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:10:16 -0800 Subject: Re: Questions Thanks for clearing that up! "Dean A. Hoppenrath, DC" wrote: > OK, here is a brief spinal anatomy lesson... > > In the adult there are 5 regions in the spine. The first is the top most > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: HugEBear36@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:21:34 EST Subject: Re: Questions Thank you. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:10:13 EST Subject: Re: Nutrition & Exercise In a message dated 1/20/99 12:05:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Eileen.P.Grady@usdoj.gov writes: << chiropracty (which makes me very nervous) and a friend recently suggested acupuncture. >> For me, chiros were not able to reduce pain (saw more than one over the years), but acupuncture helped. I did not, however, have the excruciating pain that others report. I did have the very fine needles version of acupuncture, not laser acupuncture. And, I HATE needles - these were so fine, nothing like those used to give shots, that I did not mind them at all. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:12:53 EST Subject: Re: Options In a message dated 1/20/99 12:57:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, cortese@netcom.com writes: << Wish me luck, Janis >> Consider it done!!!!! ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: RSMVMD@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:27:17 EST Subject: Re: Nutrition & Exercise In a message dated 1/20/99 12:23:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, HJEWEGL@aol.com writes: > My Dr. > said at first, he didn't know if I would, then after the surgery, 3 months, > and now he says 5 months. What is customary? > ... Bonnie, For those that wear a post-op brace, I don't believe there is a customary length of time. I believe my surgeon based it on the type of surgery I had, viewing my x-rays and the healing of the fusion. I ended up having two surgeries about six weeks apart, and my total time in the brace was 8 to 10 months from the first surgery. Hope this helps, and good luck with your recuperation!! Richard S. Maryland (outside Washington, DC) ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pilmer Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:49:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Surgery Hi Addy, I have not had surgery but it is under consideration. I am also involved in sports. I play baseball. I would also like to know how long it will be before I can play again if I get surgery. I live in Concord,Ohio which is 26 miles east of Cleveland. Where do you live? I would love to talk to you some more. Erica = ) Addypat@aol.com wrote: > hi alison i am 11 years old and may be getting surgery within the new year i > was wondering if i will still be able to play sports i am a dadicated > baketball player and if so hoew long will ihave to wait before i can play > ... For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Fortune_Duck@msn.com.au Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:49:48 +1100 Subject: Copes Foundation Hi Everyone, Sorry it's taken me such a long time to update you all on whats been happening lately. As most of you know, I've got a 90 degree thoracic, and a 65 degree lumbar curvature. I'm almost 17, and I've been booked in to have surgery on the 12th of March this year. I'm really worried about having the surgery, and I'm considering postponing the surgery to try the Copes method. I've been in contact with a doctor Lawson here in Australia who has told me that I would need to go to the US to be fitted for a brace. Apparently she can do the rest of the procedure (exercises, hydrotherapy etc.) herself. I've read a bit about the Copes method, and I'm wondering what success people have had with this... It's a bit of a difficult situation. My scoliosis is causing me quite a lot of back pain and some breathing problems (even though all of the specialists I've seen disregard this), and I'm concerned that if the Copes method doesn't work, I will have to wait another 7 months or so for an operation, whilst my curve is still progressing. :/ If anyone has had any experience with the Copes method, or has any advice, it would be MUCH appreciated !!! Thanks everyone !!!! Take Care - -Amy from Australia ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Dean A. Hoppenrath, DC" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:27:21 -0600 Subject: Re: Nutrition & Exercise What exactly makes you nervous about chiropractic? I am a chiro so my opinion is obviously biased, but if you have any questions about it I would be more than happy to answer. Dr. Dean PS. - I am also a certified acupuncturist - ----- Original Message ----- From: Grady Eileen P To: Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 1:46 PM Subject: RE: Nutrition & Exercise > >I have two curves - 55 and 56 degrees. I spoke with my dr yesterday about possible surgery. He indicated 1-2 weeks in the hospital, followed by 2-4 months in a brace. I would guess it varies depending on a variety of individual circumstances (including age? I'm now 34. He's saying I'll need it some time within the next several years). > >On another note, pain management is becoming an increasing challenge for me. I am in good shape, exercise regularly but...My L2, L3 are now touching, I've developed arthritis in my lower spine, and my "hump of steel" (the infamous lumbar hump) seems to get bigger and more painful on a daily basis. I love the scoliosis literature they print that says we have little to no pain! and the way doctors seem to tout this as well! I take little medication, given the chronicity have massage periodically. My massage therapist keeps pushing me toward chiropracty (which makes me very nervous) and a friend recently suggested acupuncture. Anyone have any experience with either of these? > >-----Original Message----- >From: HJEWEGL@aol.com@inetgw2 > ... of >my s shaped curve, but my bottom was left at a 43 degree curve. After 3 >children and 30 years, my bottom curve worsened to 68 degrees and an 80 degree >curve towards my stomach. I had a 2 surgerys, 3 months ago to correct this, >with good results. My question is how long do you wear the brace? My Dr. >said at first, he didn't know if I would, then after the surgery, 3 months, >and now he says 5 months. What is customary? > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Leah640@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:00:06 EST Subject: Re: Copes Foundation In a message dated 1/20/99 7:06:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, Fortune_Duck@msn.com.au writes: << My scoliosis is causing me quite a lot of back pain and some breathing problems (even though all of the specialists I've seen disregard this), and I'm concerned that if the Copes method doesn't work, I will have to wait another 7 months or so for an operation, whilst my curve is still progressing. :/ If anyone has had any experience with the Copes method, or has any advice, it would be MUCH appreciated !!! Thanks everyone !!!! Take Care -Amy from Australia >> Amy, With your curves so bad I don't think bracing will help, I think if you had tried some sort before it might have but then again maybe not. I would go ahead and have the fusion, please let us know what you deside and how you are doing. Maybe Sherri or Peglay(sorry if wrong) could tell you more about copes in your advanced state, but I would think copes himself would say you need fusion at your degrees. Fusion is not so bad, much better these days then when I had mine, and it is a desision from which I have never looked back with regret. Your thorasic curve is worse than mine was I was at 78 0ver 68 (I think, it might have been 82 at the time of my fusion, it was progressing so fast, I seem to think it was 82)We will be here for you whatever you decide to support your desion. Leah ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pegclay123@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:31:38 EST Subject: Re: Copes Foundation In a message dated 99-01-20 21:08:57 EST, you write: << Maybe Sherri or Peglay(sorry if wrong) could tell you more about copes in your advanced state, but I would think copes himself would say you need fusion at your degrees. >> Leah - very close PegClay actually but A for effort. Actually I wish I could advise you, but I can't. Natalies curve was only 40 degrees to start with and has been reduced by half. Natalie also had cord complications so her situation is a little different in that regard as well. I think it is good that you are researching all of your options before going on with a decision that is a final as surgery. Give Copes a call, your situation may be too far progressed, but you never know until you check. Do it over the phone though or through e-mail. Travel from Australia to the US is pretty extreme only to perhaps be dissapointed by the analysis. Whichever ends up being your option, I wish you the best. Keep us posted. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Kathy Mayhall Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:50:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] Wow, you are a Brave and Great Woman..I hope that I can be more like you! Kathy M BettRich@aol.com wrote: > > I am seventy, and has extensive bone fusions done in the forties for the worse > curvature anyone has seen when a young teen. I should be a cripple so what do > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Kathy Mayhall Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:52:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Copes Foundation I think it is way to late for any bracing at the degrees your curves are at...Get the Operation over with..I also was going to cancel my surgery..but I did not and glad that it is over!!! Fortune_Duck@msn.com.au wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > Sorry it's taken me such a long time to update you all on whats been > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Jenny Billett Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:09:55 +1100 Subject: Re massage therapy embarrasment? i've never been embarrased about my back - (i have a 31deg curve) - and have been going to a massage therapist for 6 years now. i used to go just for massages when i was feeling run down, sore or downright crippled from the pain, and every time he was able to make me feel wonderful - and that usually lasted for a while, until i started doing things i shouldn't like lots of sewing or needlepoint or sitting at the computer for hours on end playing games :) ... now my massage therapist has changed my treatment slightly, and we are working on stretching shortened muscles in my back and "shrinking" muscles that have been stretched too much because of the curve... that is helping as well. Swimming is also a very good thing for people with scoliosis to do. i do 40 laps every couple of days at the local pool now - mainly freestyle and backstroke. - if you're not a good swimmer, get some training flippers, a kickboard and swimming goggles, and you will be amazed with the results. also, don't be embarrased about getting lessons if you're older (i'm 29) - i have had a few lessons recently to make sure i was doing things right - that's who suggested the flippers etc to help me get my kicking right. anyway, as you get older you will become less self conscious about your body. - i have been told especially when you have children that you lose all self consciousness. ________________________________________________________________ IDEAL Internet Services __________________ http://www.ideal.net.au/ ____________________ Head Office: 1/157 Airds Road Leumeah, PO Box 1265 Campbelltown NSW 2560 Australia NSW 2560 Australia Ph:(02)4628-8888 Fax:(02)4628-8890 ________________________________________________________________ ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: WinBai@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:52:20 EST Subject: Been to SRS doc ! Hi all, Well I finally got to see the SRS doc(Dr. King) in LA. He was quite nice and ready, willing, and able to explain a lot of things.......BUT (there just had to be one didn't there?) I'm more confused now than ever!! First, he redid my Xrays. The most recent ones I had were from August '98. He then calculated my curve to be 48 degrees...NOT 64 degrees as per the last "Scoliosis specialist" How could they come up with such drastically different numbers ??? I have not progressed since Aug. anyway. Then, he proceeded to explain how my lower back pain is NOT caused by the scoliosis. Basically he said that my curve is thoracic and my pain is lower. I'm still not sure that I agree. It seems to me that if a person cannot sit or stand straight that it would have an impact on all of the related muscles. Anyway, I will be getting an MRI of the lumbar area just to make sure it's not a disc or nerve (neither of us think so). He gave me 4 exercises to do. Basically all a variation on the pelvic tilt........THAT I'VE BEEN DOING FAITHFULLY SINCE I WAS 11 YRS. OLD. My opinion......if the pelvic tilt hasn't helped in all these years (22 to be exact)...I don't think they'll make much difference now. (yes, I told him) And he prescribed a lumbarosacral corset. As far as discussion about fusion.....he said he didn't think it was necessary at this time. That maybe later......he could get me really straight. Made it sound like no big deal...like he'll do it if I want ...down the road....but doesn't see any reason to do it now. He said that he didn't really see any reason to do it at all. My first doctor said...Do it now.... the longer you wait the more risks involved(I'm 33) ....It seems that my curve has progressed about 1 degree per year since I got my Milwaukee brace off. That means it'll be 87 degrees by the time I'm 60 !! I want to be able to pick up my GRANDKIDS. And NO I don't believe in exercise keeping it from progressing. I've been an AVID exerciser ALL my life. If it hasn't helped me yet --I don't think it will in the future. (please don't bash me for saying that) I've written a book again. Any thoughts out there??? Why two such different numbers and prognosis??? With two docs saying the complete opposite maybe I need a 3rd opinion. I think there is one more SRS doc in the LA area=:) Maybe I'll make an appointment tomorrow. Or maybe I'll wait until the MRI is done. Oh I don't know......Think I'll go sleep on it. Thanks All, Tonia ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Sharon Kay Miller Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:03:17 +0100 Subject: RE: Re: Nutrition [wasRe: post fusion and Copes] Betty, You are an inspiration! I am in the process of convincing myself that the exercising I do now will be something I will need to continue the rest of my life - and you are the confirmation I needed. I do many of the same exercises and it has help tremendously. I still need some help, though, especially in the neck/shoulder area which I find hard to exercise. I will look into acupuncture. How long have you been receiving acupuncture and how frequently do you have it? Thanks for the advice! I am also very glad this support group exists! Sharon > ---------- > From: BettRich@aol.com[SMTP:BettRich@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 9:53 PM > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ End of scoliosis V1 #1080 ************************* You're reading a composite here: the scoliosis-digest is a daily encapsulation of messages sent to four different mailing lists: scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens. If you're responding, you can determine which list message above was posted to by looking at the message footer. To post your own email to scoliosis, send it to "scoliosis@ai.mit.edu". To post your own email to scoliosis-medical list, send it to "scoliosis-medical@ai.mit.edu". To post to scoliosis-child, send your message to "scoliosis-child@ai.mit.edu." To post your message to scoliosis-teens, send it to "scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu". 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