From: bounce-scoliosis To: scoliosis-digest@ai.mit.edu Subject: scoliosis V1 #1194 Reply-To: Errors-To: bounce-scoliosis Precedence: bulk scoliosis Saturday, 15 May 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1194 Today's subjects for scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld [Donna907@aol.com] RE: new to the listing [Karen Pilmer ] Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update [Donna907@aol.com] FW: SCOLIOSIS ["Sweeney, Dianne" ] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld [Train4Tri@aol.com] Re: Brace [Miguel Antonio Alvarado ] Re: Brace ["Jason Anthony Robertson" ] RE: Whether to have surgery now ["Sandy Morey" ] Re: summer vacation [Beck301176@aol.com] Day 7-8 ["George Luker" ] Re: Dr Lenke [MSMRHINES@aol.com] Re: Brace [richa@softcom.net] Happy99 Virus Again :-( [Linda Racine ] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld ["John F. Byrne" ] Dr Striker or Dr Cohen: South Florida ["John F. Byrne" ] Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update [NBiagini@aol.com] Re: Update on Stephanie's Checkup [NBiagini@aol.com] Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update [NBiagini@aol.com] inflammation [K-BROWN@webtv.net (Regina Brown)] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld ["Martha Lopez" ] employment and scoliosis [Alyssa ] LA Doctors [Crico1227@aol.com] Re: new subscriber [BettRich@aol.com] New Address [Jessie Deyoe ] Re: To Cheri [DLCBH@aol.com] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld [Donna907@aol.com] surgery ["bkwrn1" ] Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update [Leah640@aol.com] Re: new to the listing [Luver2me@aol.com] Re: [Luver2me@aol.com] Re: [Luver2me@aol.com] Dr. Hoppenrath: General Chiropracter questions [Carol Pierce ] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld [Train4Tri@aol.com] Re: employment and scoliosis ["Larry Ling-Cheuk Wong" ] Noah ["MIKE POOLE" ] Hard Labor! [VSlaybaugh@aol.com] Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld [Donna907@aol.com] Hard Labor! [VSlaybaugh@aol.com] Day 9 :-) ["George Luker" ] Re: Four weeks - A new person! [WinBai@aol.com] Re: Hard Labor! [WinBai@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donna907@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:33:54 EDT Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld Dear Martha, I didnt hear anything about Dr. Murthy. I really like her. Dr Hoppenfeld looks like he needs surgery. He is hunch back. I told Dr. Murthy & Liz to do everything for her because I wont put my daughter in the operating room unless it was life or death. Dr hoppenfeld was in the room. If she ever needed surgery I wouldnt use him anyway. It would either be Dr Boachie or Dr newirth. Dr newirth operated on a friend of ours. He also did gloria estafan. I am so upset Martha because when we first started he told me that if christina did everything the way he wanted her chances were 99 percent. How can he give me those numbers? The only reason I am still with them is because I believe Dr Murthy & Liz (bracemaker) are doing everything for her. Dr Murthy has a daughter Christinas age & she told me that she will help my daughter as if it were her own. She dosent want to send anyone for back surgery. I am so sorry about Jewels. She is in my prayers. Although my prayers dont seem to be getting answered. My mother in law has pictures of my daughter all over churches in italy where people can read about her & pray for her. My aunt has candles lit all over her house & my mother prays so much for her. My neighbor is a born again who goes to church so much & has the whole church praying for her. I am very down today. Sorry...I hope everything goes okay for jewels. My daughter is terrified of the surgery & I dont think I can put her through that...I will try everything before that option. Please let me know her outcome. I have to go back to the brace dr on Wed for additional strapes & pads & then back to the bronx on Friday.....talk to you soon......donna ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Karen Pilmer Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:02:58 -0400 Subject: RE: new to the listing No it was Isabella. If you read her book, you will get an eye opener. You will see how far medicine has come. She was treated on the "rack". In bed for a year or so. Her mother Ingrid Bergman was very supportive during this time, she made no movies, stayed home to nurse her daughter. Just like any of us Moms would do. Karen, Concord OH ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Donna907@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:48:15 EDT Subject: Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update I am so sorry. I will keep little Andy in our prayers.....Im worried about my daughter's scoliolis but something like this really stops & makes you think, things could be worse... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Sweeney, Dianne" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:01:28 -0400 Subject: FW: SCOLIOSIS > -----Original Message----- > From: Sweeney, Dianne > Sent: May 14, 1999 8:19 AM > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Train4Tri@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:47:22 EDT Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld This brought back memories. I was treated by Dr. Hoppenfeld and Dr. Murthy quite a few years ago. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Miguel Antonio Alvarado Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Brace Lucky you! I have no idea when I will be finished wearing my brace! Miguel - --- "Henry G. Herford, Jr." wrote: > Hi everyone! > I went to the doctor yesterday for my scoliosis > checkup. Guess > ...
Hi everyone!
     I went to the doctor yesterday for my scoliosis checkup.  Guess what he told me!   I don't have to wear my brace anymore!  Yes!  Well, gotta go!  Bye!
Rachael Herford _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Jason Anthony Robertson" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:50:20 PDT Subject: Re: Brace Rachael, That's great news! I am still wearing my brace and I hate it! Jason >From: "Henry G. Herford, Jr." >Reply-To: scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu >To: scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu > ... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Sandy Morey" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:55:14 PDT Subject: RE: Whether to have surgery now Steve, What type of instrumentation is Dr. Kostiuk going to use? Will you wear a brace and what will the recovery period be? How long will you be in the hospital? What kind of rehab will there be? Since Dr. Kostiuk is in a teaching hospital, will he be doing the operation himself? I will be having this operation in a few months and I am interested in comparing notes. Thanks, Sandy >From: "Jaskulek, Steve" >Reply-To: scoliosis-medical@ai.mit.edu >To: "'scoliosis-medical@ai.mit.edu'" > ... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Beck301176@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:27:52 EDT Subject: Re: summer vacation nope its not far dennis is the next town over. that would be really cool to meet someone from the scoloisis group. i'll hafta talk to my mom and stuff i dunno, im not sure if im going to florida this summer or not i hope sooo!!!!!!!! well gotta go! Becky For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "George Luker" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:30:03 -0700 Subject: Day 7-8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE9D76.FFAA3880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, Last two days have been a little challenging. After the detour to ICU, = have struggled with pain management. Morphine is making her too drowsey = and spacey for safe use. We don't need a depressed respiratory system = and a patient with no feedback system. Three injections over the two = days were used to reduce anxiety caused pain. Ativan allowed the = morphine to work better; but, she went to sleep immediately. She slept = in 2 hour blocks through most of Day 7. When she awoke, she was in #9 = pain. Extra doses of morphine and a half hour later she was comfortable = (#5) and off to sleep again. Repositioning was pretty good, IF we = planned ahead and got ahead of the pain with the PCA button. Our day = nurse was an angel appearing just when we needed one. She took special = care of Linda all day providing everything she needed. She mostly cared = deeply and expressed her concern to both of us. =20 To complicate things in the wee hours this morning; Linda complained of = chest pain in response to 'how do you feel'? She described it as = heaviness; so the EKG and enzyme checks were done. Medication remained = the same and Linda was in pain until heart problems were ruled out. = Best guess is distended bowel pressure, rib, diaphragm, and incisions = were all causing pain. Priority became to reduce intestinal gas asap. = See below.=20 =20 Our day 8 nurse (another angel) Scott suggested dilaudid as a substitute = for morphine because it has the pain killing power without the drowsey = effect. Pain team agreed. The plan to change from morphine to dilaudid = happened at 2:00pm May 13. There will be several hours before the = morphine effects are gone. The new medication appears to take care of = the pain already. Dilaudid has a prolonged affect so there is no basal = amount automatically given. It is 100% patient controlled as to when = taken. Up to 10x per hour or once each 6 minutes. We are still dealing = with drowsiness and some hallucinations for most of today. There were = some spacey responses before on morphine and an occasional = hallucination; so we think it's all morphine and/or Ativan based. We have two major milestones accomplished. The first and smellyist was = a BM (no gas yet). Required a suppository each day after second surgery = (no effect), a bowel tube (essentially a enema tube with a glove taped = on the end as a reservoir (no effect), and a fast acting laxative = ordered by the pain team Dr.. It took effect in about 30 mins. Linda = couldn't get any results on the bedpan and wanted to get up and use a = commode. She was too spacey to get up and did get some results on the = bedpan. The good news was she rolled over to get on the pan and = remained on it for 20 minutes without major discomfort. =20 =20 Later, the PT came in and did some exercises in preparation for = dangling. Again, she was so spacey and incoherent we couldn't depend on = reliable feedback. About 4:30pm PT came back and Linda sat up on the = bed for 5 minutes. She wanted to stand; but, due to drowsyness, decided = to postpone until tomorrow morning. =20 It's now shift change time. Linda is sleeping again after having blood = drawn, vitals taken, brief bed bath, and we'll see how the evening goes. = Expecting to catch up on some sleep; maybe in some longer stretches. = The dilaudid lasts longer so don't know what the interval for control = will be. Again, thanks for the love and care we read, hear, and feel from you = all. Warm regards from, George and Linda - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE9D76.FFAA3880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,
Last two days have been a little = challenging.  After=20 the detour to ICU, have struggled with pain management.  Morphine = is making=20 her too drowsey and spacey for safe use.  We don't need a depressed = respiratory system and a patient with no feedback system.  Three = injections=20 over the two days were used to reduce anxiety caused pain.  Ativan = allowed=20 the morphine to work better; but, she went to sleep immediately.  = She slept=20 in 2 hour blocks through most of Day 7.  When she awoke, she was in = #9=20 pain.  Extra doses of morphine and a half hour later she was = comfortable=20 (#5) and off to sleep again.  Repositioning was pretty good, IF we = planned=20 ahead and got ahead of the pain with the PCA button. Our day nurse = was an=20 angel appearing just when we needed one.  She took special care of = Linda=20 all day providing everything she needed.  She mostly cared = deeply and=20 expressed her concern to both of us.
 
To complicate things in the wee hours this = morning;=20 Linda complained of chest pain in response to 'how do you feel'?  = She=20 described it as heaviness; so the EKG and enzyme checks were done.  = Medication remained the same and Linda was in pain until heart problems = were=20 ruled out.  Best guess is distended bowel pressure, = rib, diaphragm,=20 and incisions were all causing pain.  Priority became to reduce = intestinal=20 gas asap.  See below.
 
Our day 8 nurse (another angel) Scott suggested = dilaudid=20 as a substitute for morphine because it has the pain killing power = without the=20 drowsey effect.  Pain team agreed.  The plan=20 to change from morphine to dilaudid happened at 2:00pm May 13.  = There will=20 be several hours before the morphine effects are gone.  The new = medication=20 appears to take care of the pain already.  Dilaudid has a prolonged = affect=20 so there is no basal amount automatically given.  It is 100% = patient=20 controlled as to when taken.  Up to 10x per hour or once each 6=20 minutes.  We are still dealing with drowsiness and some = hallucinations=20 for most of today.  There were some spacey responses before on = morphine and=20 an occasional hallucination; so we think it's all morphine and/or Ativan = based.
 
We have two major milestones accomplished.  = The first=20 and smellyist was a BM (no gas yet).  Required a suppository each = day after=20 second surgery (no effect), a bowel tube (essentially a enema tube with = a glove=20 taped on the end as a reservoir (no effect), and a fast acting laxative = ordered=20 by the pain team Dr..  It took effect in about 30 mins.  Linda = couldn't get any results on the bedpan and wanted to get up and use a=20 commode.  She was too spacey to get up and did get some results on = the=20 bedpan.  The good news was she rolled over to get on the pan and = remained=20 on it for 20 minutes without major discomfort. 
 
Later, the PT came in and did some = exercises in=20 preparation for dangling.  Again, she was so spacey and incoherent = we=20 couldn't depend on reliable feedback.  About 4:30pm PT came back = and Linda=20 sat up on the bed for 5 minutes.  She wanted to stand; but, due to=20 drowsyness, decided to postpone until tomorrow morning.  =
 
It's now shift change time.  Linda is = sleeping again=20 after having blood drawn, vitals taken, brief bed bath, and we'll see = how the=20 evening goes.  Expecting to catch up on some sleep; maybe in some = longer=20 stretches.  The dilaudid lasts longer so don't know what the = interval for=20 control will be.
 
Again, thanks for the love and care we read, = hear, and=20 feel from you all.
 
Warm regards from,
George and Linda
- ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE9D76.FFAA3880-- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: MSMRHINES@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: Dr Lenke In a message dated 05/13/1999 3:29:10 AM Central Daylight Time, bounce-scoliosis@ai.mit.edu writes: << From: Marcia A Ackerman Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Parent to parent...this is long, please excuse Where is Dr. Lenke? city? Hospital? Thanks, Marcy On Fri, 21 May 1999, Margie Stelzer wrote: > > Shelly: > >> Hi Marcy, Dr. Lenke is in St. Louis, MO..working through Shriners. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them. We've only met him once, but felt comfortable with him. Shelly, Rodney's mother-17mos today, cong.scoli. t1-t7 hemiverts t2&4 ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-child-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: richa@softcom.net Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:16:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Brace That's great Rachel! I know how you feel. My doctor told me the same thing over spring break! I felt soooo good. Guess where my brace is now? Somewhere at a recycling center in the US! My doctor teased me and told me to "melt it into a lamp." I wanted to do that soooo bad, but my mom wouldn't let me! And besides, it would stink up the oven. So good luck destroying it! Bye! Sharece For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Linda Racine Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:49:42 -0800 Subject: Happy99 Virus Again :-( Hi Shelly... I believe you have the Happy99 virus/worm. When your system is infected, it sends the Happy99 virus with all the email you send. You can find information on this worm at: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html Everyone else. PLEASE do not execute the .EXE file that went to the list. If you do, your system will also be infected. Regards, Linda ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-child-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "John F. Byrne" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:52:07 -0400 Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld Does anyone have any info regarding Dr. Steven Stricker at Miami Chiuldren's Hospital or Dr Cohen at the Joe Dimaggio Center in Hollywood, FL. Thanks in advance John ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "John F. Byrne" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:53:55 -0400 Subject: Dr Striker or Dr Cohen: South Florida Does anyone have any info regarding Dr. Steven Stricker at Miami Children's Hospital or Dr. Cohen at the Joe Dimaggio Center in Hollywood, FL. Thanks in advance John ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:25:37 EDT Subject: Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update In a message dated 5/13/99 5:22:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Pegclay123@aol.com writes: << So thanks again for all of your prayers >> Anytime, Peg. Very happy to hear things are so good......Nancy ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:27:15 EDT Subject: Re: Update on Stephanie's Checkup In a message dated 5/13/99 7:01:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, houstonk@home.com writes: << I am so thankful for all the support I have received from people on the Scoliosis Mailing list. I'll keep you posted on Stephanie's progress >> Moght it be time for another opinion?? www.SRS.org? ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: NBiagini@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:29:58 EDT Subject: Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update In a message dated 5/13/99 8:28:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Pegclay123@aol.com writes: << So please keep those prayers coming >> I am so sorry - please remember the first part of my last post - I will say prayers....Nancy ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: K-BROWN@webtv.net (Regina Brown) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: inflammation Dr. dean, I am curious concerning scoliosis pain and inflammation. Is all scoliosis pain related to having inflammation or is some of it muscular related too? I have a lot of pain associated with my lumbar scoliosis and can't do very much physically at all. I am taking anti-inflammatory meds. Is this enough or should I be taking something more for my pain. I should say sometimes the anti-inflammatory meds. helps and sometimes they don't. Thanks for your info. Regina ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Martha Lopez" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:34:48 -0400 Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld How did you do Under their care? Martha - -----Original Message----- From: Train4Tri@aol.com To: scoliosis@ai.mit.edu Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld > >This brought back memories. I was treated by Dr. Hoppenfeld and Dr. Murthy >quite a few years ago. > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Alyssa Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:09:05 -0500 Subject: employment and scoliosis I'm interested in how others handle the search for employment and disclosure of physical limitations. My first occupation was as a petroleum engineer which required long hours standing in the field. I was MISERABLE, but never mentioned this to my employer. I performed my duties without complaint but was criticized for looking tired. Clearly, keeping my condition a secret was not the ideal solution. Later, I was given a letter from the state rehabilitation commission which indicates that I have scoliosis, have had multiple spine surgeries, and meet state and federal guidelines as being physically disabled and vocationally handicapped. The letter delineates my specific limitations quite well - limited in standing, bending, stooping, etc. (I had a lot of problems with the surgery including a spinal cord complication which causes pain and muscle spasticity plus the usual problems accompanying a fusion to L5.) I am currently going to graduate school in environmental engineering in order to get back into engineering. I took a part-time job as a bookkeeper while in school. During the interview process I didn't disclose my condition because I really didn't think it would present a problem in what I thought would be a sedentary bookkeeping job. I did ask if I could rely on information in the computer system, or would I have to use the files. I was assured that generally I could rely on the computer. Sounded like a nice sedentary job - shouldn't be a problem. They failed to mention during the hiring process that I would also do a lot of filing. When this became an issue, I presented the letter. Let's just say it wasn't well received - I was treated as though I was feigning illness to weasle out of work. Not the place for me, and I promptly quit. Now I'm looking for summer work during my break from school and will be looking for a full time engineering job when I finish next year. So, do I present the letter during the hiring process and ask if they can live with my limitations? If they require a drug screen, I'll have to disclose the medications that I'm on so there will likely be some discussion of an existing medical problem. It's a real dilemma. Disclosing up front could cost me an offer, but if that's their attitude, the job would probably be a bad situation. Although, lots of people are leary of back problems as they anticipate excessive absenteeism and feigning illness. Around these types, I'm tempted to give them a look at my scar. The cynicism is tough to take - particularly when the other person speaks condescendingly about how they too have a back problem, but you don't hear them complaining. I'd appreciate any thoughts including anecdotal information. Alyssa ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Crico1227@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:17:27 EDT Subject: LA Doctors Has anyone used Dr. John King in the Los Angeles area for spinal fusion surgery for ADULT scoliosis? If so, what was your experience, good or bad? Please advise of any other LA doctors specializing in adult scoliosis/surgery, your experience (good or bad) and what hospital was used. I would really like to know if there is a doctor affiliated with Cedars-Sinai. Thanks! ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: BettRich@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:18:26 EDT Subject: Re: new subscriber If your scoliosis is restricting your work setting, you may be eligible for vocational rehabilitation services through your state/federal agency. Texas Rehabilitation Commission paid my tuition through college as I could not have a sitting or lifting job. Please check as they may retrain you and certainly can advise you as to jobs that your back will presently let you handle. Betty ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Jessie Deyoe Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:21:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: New Address For anyone interested, I will be retiring next week and my new email address is: jdeyoe9753@aol.com Jessie Jessie Deyoe ** Administrative Associate University of Arizona ** Campus Health Service P.O. Box 210063 ** Tucson, Arizona ** 85721-0063 (520) 621-2568 or Fax (520) 621-8412 http://www.health.arizona.edu ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: DLCBH@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:06:26 EDT Subject: Re: To Cheri I have read your email and my daughter is going to be 11 in May. She has been wearing the Boston brace she was 8. You had mentioned she wore it all the time and still progressed. My daughter wears it 23 hrs a day because she is scared of surgery. Us too but she has seen me and I have had the surgery. She doesn't want the rod in her back. Any way, I am getting off the subject. I was wondering what did they say was the reason she progressed even though she was wearing the brace. I guess I was hoping this would prevent her from progressing. So far it has and believe me she is growing quite a bit. She is as tall as me. Not that I am tall but for fifth grade she is one of the tallest. I know at our last appt they mentioned they were waiting for her period and one year after that, she could take off the brace. Sorry this is so long, but I feel for you and everyone else. Deb ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Donna907@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:21:23 EDT Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld you said you were treated by them a few years ago but didnt say how the outcome was...Did you ever have surgery & if so did Dr hoppenfeld do it. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "bkwrn1" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:26:47 -0500 Subject: surgery Cheri, I wanted to write to let you know that I have an 11 year old daughter who had scoliosis surgery 4 months ago. It was the best thing we have done. Her curve started at 72 degrees and after surgery it was 15 degrees!! The doctors, hospital, and all involved were excellant. Her recovery was quick, she was back in school in 5 weeks (part-time). She has a post-op brace, which we hope she gets out of in 1 week. Her 6 week x-rays were perfect! It is always hard to make the decision, but ours was right on the money! E-mail me if you have any other questions--bonrn1@msn.com Bonnie ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Leah640@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:17:02 EDT Subject: Re: Not Scoliosis - Andy update My prayers will continue for little Andy and your whole family. My heart goes out to you all, so sad, I will hope and pray for him to beat this with out to much pain and suffering. Leah NJ ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Luver2me@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:48:47 EDT Subject: Re: new to the listing I have scoliosis and I am very afraid of heights. I wonder if there is a connection. Is anyone else out there that has scoliosis and also afraid of heights? Tina NY ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Luver2me@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:07:26 EDT Subject: Re: ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Luver2me@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:08:27 EDT Subject: Re: Does anyone know how I can find info on which famous people have scoliosis? ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Carol Pierce Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Dr. Hoppenrath: General Chiropracter questions Dr. Hoppenrath, Can I ask you some general chiropractic questions? Carol _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Carol Pierce Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: To operate or not? Hi David, I'm 36 with lumbar scoliosis. It was first noticed by a chiro when I was about 17-18. An orthoped. diagnosed me with an x-ray in 1995. I only had a mild 12 degree curve in 1995. Since then it has progressed a quite a bit, but not enough to need surgey. Orthoped. read my 1999 x-ray as 30 degrees. Spinal surgeon read same x-ray as just 26 degrees. I had my first baby in 1996, but the spinal surgeon said that pregancy would not cause a curve to get worse. I have lower back pain from osteoarthritis secondary to the scoliosis. I'm managing it well in the past week by learning to use tylenol(aceteminophen) and capsaicin creme properly to be most effective for osteoarthritis. Also, I've increased my aerobic exercise from about 3x per week to about 6x per week. That helps with the pain. I've started doing strengthening and flexibility exercises too. I would like to know more about chiropractic treatments for pain management. Massage therapy too. Also, what is the Pilates method of exercise? Sincerely, Carol (USA) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Train4Tri@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:39:35 EDT Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld I was treated by the Hoppenfield team around 1985 to 1988 or 89. I had a mild curve, I can't remember the exact numbers, but it was enuf to have to wear a brace just to prevent it from getting worse and to possibly make it better. I didn't want to wear it all day long and since my curve was somewhat mild I was able to start out wearing it at nights and we figured that if it should get worse, then I can wear it all day long. But it always stayed at nights. Looking back I wish they would have tried harder to make me wear it all day long because maybe it would have helped me with the tilted pelvis problem I have today. But now they at least have 15 years more experience then when I first came to them. But about them doing surgery I really wouldn't know. I don't think my parents felt they were the greatest doctors and I know that they took my older sister whose curve was more severe and who eventually did have surgery to Dr. Graham and I don't remember why I went to Hoppenfeld instead. They assume that people with mild curves will have no problems, but I'm not so sure about that. I don't know if when they said that I could do anything anyone else could when I got my brace off if they could ever have imagined that I would take that literally and take up the sport of bicycle racing. My lower back always hurt a lot on the bike. And now I have a chronic leg injury that may or may not be at least partially related to the scoliosis and the uneven hips. I think it is ok to see them for wearing a brace and that they leave it up to you to decide how often you are going to wear it. They will recommend what they think the patient should do, but they can't force you to do it and that is probably what happened with me. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Larry Ling-Cheuk Wong" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:17:16 -0700 Subject: Re: employment and scoliosis Alyssa, Why you developed this kind of complication after your surgery? Did you surgery sucess? Did you contact your doctor who operate you? I am a scoliosis patient as well, and I hope you don't mind to share your experience with me. Best Regard - --- Larry Ling-Cheuk Wong On Fri, 14 May 1999 13:09:05 Alyssa wrote: > >I'm interested in how others handle the search for employment and >disclosure of physical limitations. My first occupation was as a > ... Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "MIKE POOLE" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:03:22 -0400 Subject: Noah Lisa, By now Noah's surgery must be over - we are keeping you all in our prayers, best of luck to you and a tender hug for Noah. Kim (Gene, Conner & 2 yr. old Christopher's mom) ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-child-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "MIKE POOLE" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:13:32 -0400 Subject: Noah Lisa, I apologize! I was thinking Noah's surgery was yesterday (the 13th) but realize it's the 20th. It's been a week since I checked my mail so I'm a week off. We will be thinking about you all on the 20th, extra hugs to Noah til then....... Kim ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-child-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: VSlaybaugh@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:29:21 EDT Subject: Hard Labor! As of today, I have accomplished my most major feat since my surgery. I planted and worked in about 4 flower beds in my yard. I lifted and dumped sixteen 40 lb. bags of top soil, spread out two bags of mulch, and bent and stooped for two days to plant my flowers. Now my back and rest of my body are paying. I am so sore! But I know it is just muscle soreness. When I'm used to sitting most of the day behind a computer at work and then some more at home, my body is just not used to this kind of labor. Vicky Age 39, Surgery 2/23/98 ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Donna907@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:30:48 EDT Subject: Re: scoliolis dr. Hoppenfeld My daughter wears it faithfully 23 hours a day for the past three years. I cant imagine her having to wear this brace for 5 or 6 years & then to have surgery. That would devasted any kid. I can only say that if my daughter ever needed surgery and I decieded on it , I would not use him. I would use dr boachie if he accepted my coverage which at this time he does not...I also heard good things about Dr Rowe & Dr burke & Dr newirth.. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: VSlaybaugh@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:29:21 EDT Subject: Hard Labor! As of today, I have accomplished my most major feat since my surgery. I planted and worked in about 4 flower beds in my yard. I lifted and dumped sixteen 40 lb. bags of top soil, spread out two bags of mulch, and bent and stooped for two days to plant my flowers. Now my back and rest of my body are paying. I am so sore! But I know it is just muscle soreness. When I'm used to sitting most of the day behind a computer at work and then some more at home, my body is just not used to this kind of labor. Vicky Age 39, Surgery 2/23/98 ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "George Luker" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:53:10 -0700 Subject: Day 9 :-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE9E4B.C6DD99E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, Last night was a little rocky with short sleep periods and awakening in = pain. Dilaudid from the PCA took 30 - 45 minutes to get pain down to = tolerable. Linda calls #8 tolerable and hopes for #5 as a norm. We = haven't seen 5 very often. Her best coping means is sleeping. She also = had halucinations and was still drowsy. At midnight we started oral = pain meds in hopes of getting a basal rate high enough to eliminate the = low rates caused by not using the PCA. Since she was previously on = Vicodan, Neruontin, and Zoloft (works for her) we agreed to go with it = and reduce the Dilaudid. We are fairly certain both Morphine and = Dilaudid cause the halucinations and Ativan may also. Linda is still = taking Dilaudid using the button; but is relying more on the oral. = We've now upped the pain meds to Lortab, Neurontin, and Zoloft. By the = way, Neurontin works on nerve by blocking calcium receptors. Zoloft = does essentially the same but in a slightly different way. The = combination reduced her pre-op pain and tingling substantially. It will = take a while to get the body levels up and we are hoping for a good = night. Maybe 4 hours of sleep at a time and no panic for catching up on = awakening. If we have a problem with pain, we can use Dilaudid. We = would like to DC Dilaudid and get out of the psychodelic world = altogether. Pray for good results. Dr. Hus' associate came in this morning and changed the bulky back = bandage to a thinner and more comfortable one. Sutures are clean, = straight, and look like they are going to heal wonderfully. The sutures = for the anterior are looking good. Only steri-strips are in place to = help hold the sutures. It looks like 1/2" wide and 2" long near clear = tape strips are placed parallel to the incision. Kinda looks like a = single rail road track down her side. Linda is having no pain directly = from the incision of the chest tube penetration; however, she still = prefers not to lay on that side for repositioning. The chest tube = incision is leaking near clear fluids today. Bandage changed several = times. Since gas is being produced and discretely released, she is on a clear = liquid diet until dinner. It just arrived so I'll go check it out and = see if she is hungry. Not! Just touched coffee, sherbert, and mushroom = soup. It was a soft diet. Big News! Linda sat up and dangled for 10 minutes, then stood for 5 = minutes, and then sat again on the bed for 5 minutes. We were expecting = the brace measurement guys; but, they didn't arrive before She had to = lay back down. The brace guys came back and Linda sat up again and = stood the 10 minutes for the brace fitting. She had a fast setting = plaster mold made which was was cut down the back and broken away. A = open brace will appear on Monday afternoon. Hooray! Linda is up to = almost any challenge. She just determines to do what is asked without = complaint or tears. I'm doing most of the repositioning because Linda = prefers it. She fear the fast moves some aides/nurses use to move her. = Things I've learned by experience and observation: I've learned to be = slow and gentle, using the pull sheet, and positioning pillows just like = she wants. I've learned the value of baby powder in putting on support = hose and making the skin more comfortable. Disposable wash clothes are = wonderful after a 1 min. zap in the microwave. Ice chips are like gold = to a hurting person. Quiet is wonderful and there isn't much of it. = Rinseless shampoo is wonderful for bed head. There's too much tape = available to surgeons and nurses. Bed wrinkles are for you enemies, not = your spouse. Nurses need to be master plumbers for rigging an effecient = and effective IV tree. There's too much tubing and too many connections = for normal people to deal with. Bubbles in the tubing maze make you = crazy (but there's not much danger). There's always a need for one more = vial of blood at the most inappropriate time (sleeping, etc.). Finger = pricks required for blood sugar testing will out number available = fingers by a factor of 10 or more. Support hose in space boots always = travel crotchwise and toes will be strangled sooner than expected. = Whatever the patient needs is out of reach, out of sight, or just out = (morphine syringe at 2:30am). I'll be right back has no clear = definition or time frame. There's always another emergency going on = when you need help. Break times are scheduled so the capable people are = gone when you need them. Some nurses are angels. Housekeeping and = support staff are important also. Thank everyone, you may need them = soon. Be nice to everyone, same reason. Lactate on the floor can pull = your shoes off if you step in it. Clocks slow way down when you are on = pain meds. Carts and other wheeled items are designed to make the most = noise on smooth floors. Something I just learned, Don't complain or = hesitate to meet a patient spouses need; because you have to go home = sometime. :-) A hospital social worker came by this morning to discuss hospital = discharge. She is working on a rehab scenario, checking for a local = facility covered by our insurance. There's no assurance we are heading = for rehab; won't no until Tuesday. The decision is determined by how = well Linda does and if there is any medical reason to keep her in the = hospital. A couple of former patients recommended rehab as a great = transistion to home particularly if you don't have good help. We'll see = how it goes. =20 Linda has been much more aware, awake, and with it today. She does get = drowsy if the Dilaudid button is hit too much. She is getting better = slowly. Considering the activity today, I think she is doing very well. = Here comes the weekend, so wonder what surprises or dissappointments = lie ahead. We'll just take it one hour at a time. I told someone my = coping mechanism is to pretend we are on an Alaska inland cruise (pick = your favorite) and there's a ship board emergency requiring we spend the = whole two weeks in our cabin. We've packed for the vacation, so we have = everything. The good news is we don't get sea sick her in the hospital. = We have real people who come by and do more than turn the bed down and = leave a mint, and we don't have to participate in organized tours or = activities. We have a pretty good vacation exept for the pain and cabin = fever. It's really all in the attitude; so, we are doing fine. More later, George and Linda =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE9E4B.C6DD99E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,
Last night was a little rocky with short sleep = periods and=20 awakening in pain.  Dilaudid from the PCA took 30 - 45 minutes to = get pain=20 down to tolerable.  Linda calls #8 tolerable and hopes for #5 as a=20 norm.  We haven't seen 5 very often.  Her best coping means is = sleeping.  She also had halucinations and was still drowsy.  = At=20 midnight we started oral pain meds in hopes of getting a basal rate high = enough=20 to eliminate the low rates caused by not using the PCA.  Since she = was=20 previously on Vicodan, Neruontin, and Zoloft (works for her) we agreed = to go=20 with it and reduce the Dilaudid.  We are fairly certain both = Morphine and=20 Dilaudid cause the halucinations and Ativan may also.  Linda is = still=20 taking Dilaudid using the button; but is relying more on the oral.  = We've=20 now upped the pain meds to Lortab, Neurontin, and Zoloft.  By the = way,=20 Neurontin works on nerve by blocking calcium receptors.  Zoloft = does=20 essentially the same but in a slightly different way.  The = combination=20 reduced her pre-op pain and tingling substantially.  It will take a = while=20 to get the body levels up and we are hoping for a good night.  = Maybe 4=20 hours of sleep at a time and no panic for catching up on = awakening.  If we=20 have a problem with pain, we can use Dilaudid.   We would like = to DC=20 Dilaudid and get out of the psychodelic world altogether.  Pray for = good=20 results.
 
Dr. Hus' associate came in this morning and = changed the=20 bulky back bandage to a thinner and more comfortable one.  Sutures = are=20 clean, straight, and look like they are going to heal wonderfully.  = The=20 sutures for the anterior are looking good.  Only steri-strips are = in place=20 to help hold the sutures.  It looks like 1/2" wide and 2" long near = clear=20 tape strips are placed parallel to the incision.  Kinda looks = like a=20 single rail road track down her side.  Linda is having no pain = directly from the incision of the chest tube penetration; however, she = still=20 prefers not to lay on that side for repositioning.  The chest tube = incision=20 is leaking near clear fluids today.  Bandage changed several=20 times.
 
Since gas is being produced and discretely = released, she=20 is on a clear liquid diet until dinner.  It just arrived so I'll go = check=20 it out and see if she is hungry.  Not!  Just touched coffee, = sherbert,=20 and mushroom soup.  It was a soft diet.
 
Big News!  Linda sat up and dangled = for 10=20 minutes, then stood for 5 minutes, and then sat again on the bed for 5=20 minutes.  We were expecting the brace measurement guys; but, they = didn't=20 arrive before She had to lay back down.  The brace guys came back = and Linda=20 sat up again and stood the 10 minutes for the brace fitting.  She = had a=20 fast setting plaster mold made which was was cut down the back and = broken=20 away.  A open brace will appear on Monday afternoon.  = Hooray! =20 Linda is up to almost any challenge.  She just determines to = do what=20 is asked without complaint or tears.  I'm doing most of the = repositioning=20 because Linda prefers it.  She fear the fast moves some = aides/nurses use to=20 move her.  Things I've learned by experience and=20 observation:  I've learned to be slow and gentle, using the = pull=20 sheet, and positioning pillows just like she wants.  I've learned = the value=20 of baby powder in putting on support hose and making the skin more=20 comfortable.  Disposable wash clothes are wonderful after a 1 = min. zap=20 in the microwave.  Ice chips are like gold to a hurting = person.  Quiet=20 is wonderful and there isn't much of it.  Rinseless shampoo is = wonderful=20 for bed head.  There's too much tape available to surgeons and=20 nurses.  Bed wrinkles are for you enemies, not your spouse.  = Nurses=20 need to be master plumbers for rigging an effecient and effective IV = tree. =20 There's too much tubing and too many connections for normal people to = deal=20 with.  Bubbles in the tubing maze make you crazy (but there's not = much=20 danger).  There's always a need for one more vial of blood at the = most=20 inappropriate time (sleeping, etc.).  Finger pricks required for = blood=20 sugar testing will out number available fingers by a factor of 10 or = more. =20 Support hose in space boots always travel crotchwise and toes will be = strangled=20 sooner than expected.  Whatever the patient needs is out of reach, = out of=20 sight, or just out (morphine syringe at 2:30am).  I'll be right = back has no=20 clear definition or time frame.  There's always another emergency = going on=20 when you need help.  Break times are scheduled so the capable = people are=20 gone when you need them.  Some nurses are angels.  = Housekeeping and=20 support staff are important also.  Thank everyone, you may need = them=20 soon.  Be nice to everyone, same reason.  Lactate on the floor = can=20 pull your shoes off if you step in it.  Clocks slow way down when = you are=20 on pain meds.  Carts and other wheeled items are designed to = make the=20 most noise on smooth floors.  Something I just learned, Don't = complain or=20 hesitate to meet a patient spouses need; because you have to go home = sometime.=20 :-)
 
A hospital social worker came by this morning to = discuss=20 hospital discharge.  She is working on a rehab scenario, checking = for a=20 local facility covered by our insurance.  There's no assurance we = are=20 heading for rehab; won't no until Tuesday.  The decision is = determined by=20 how well Linda does and if there is any medical reason to keep her in = the=20 hospital.  A couple of former patients recommended rehab as a great = transistion to home particularly if you don't have good help.  = We'll see=20 how it goes. 
 
Linda has been much more aware, awake, and with = it=20 today.  She does get drowsy if the Dilaudid button is hit too = much. =20 She is getting better slowly.  Considering the activity today, I = think she=20 is doing very well.  Here comes the weekend, so wonder what = surprises or=20 dissappointments lie ahead.  We'll just take it one hour at a = time.  I=20 told someone my coping mechanism is to pretend we are on an Alaska = inland cruise=20 (pick your favorite) and there's a ship board emergency requiring we = spend the=20 whole two weeks in our cabin.  We've packed for the vacation, so we = have=20 everything.  The good news is we don't get sea sick her in the=20 hospital.  We have real people who come by and do more than turn = the bed=20 down and leave a mint, and we don't have to participate in organized = tours or=20 activities.  We have a pretty good vacation exept for the pain and = cabin=20 fever.  It's really all in the attitude; so, we are doing=20 fine.
 
 
More later,
George and Linda
 
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE9E4B.C6DD99E0-- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: WinBai@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:54:00 EDT Subject: Re: Four weeks - A new person! Nancy, Thanks. Wow laundry, I don't know. I'm 4 weeks now. Can't imagine laundry. I still use my walker, too. I'm starting to forget it sometimes but my lower back muscle get sore REALLY quick if I don't use it. Not to mention this unbalanced feeling that I'm going to fall over backwards. My husband says I look like a pregnant woman waddling. Doc says it'll go away in about 3-4 more weeks. I can't wait to get well enough to walk briskly at least 30 minutes. I'd love to loose this extra weight I put on last year. Then - watch out credit cards - I'M GOING SHOPPING! Thanks again, Tonia ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: WinBai@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 03:18:21 EDT Subject: Re: Hard Labor! Wow Vicky, You go girl !! I have two questions. Can you do my garden?? And after a little over a year - have you a good solid fusion? I so wanted to garden in our new home this summer!! I guess it'll have to wait until next. I was actually outside today deadheading my roses with my reacher/grabber stick. It wasn't going very well. Thanks for reminding me that this LIMBO state won't last forever. Tonia ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ End of scoliosis V1 #1194 ************************* You're reading a composite here: the scoliosis-digest is a daily encapsulation of messages sent to four different mailing lists: scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens. If you're responding, you can determine which list message above was posted to by looking at the message footer. To post your own email to scoliosis, send it to "scoliosis@ai.mit.edu". To post your own email to scoliosis-medical list, send it to "scoliosis-medical@ai.mit.edu". To post to scoliosis-child, send your message to "scoliosis-child@ai.mit.edu." To post your message to scoliosis-teens, send it to "scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu". Be sure to see the scoliosis web page at "http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/scoliosis/scoliosis.html". For help on using the scoliosis-digest, (especially unsubscribing) send an electronic mail message to "scoliosis-digest-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". Spammers and promotional posts not allowed.