From: bounce-scoliosis To: scoliosis-digest@ai.mit.edu Subject: scoliosis V1 #907 Reply-To: Errors-To: bounce-scoliosis Precedence: bulk scoliosis Monday, 3 August 1998 Volume 01 : Number 907 Today's subjects for scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens: mailing list maint [Richard Lethin ] Re: Clothing, appearances, reactions, etc. [Debgwest@aol.com] Any Information? [Jo MacAleese ] Re: [Megdoughs@aol.com] Re: Just wondering [Ashley Walser ] Re: Just wondering [Allison150@aol.com] Re: Just wondering [Allison150@aol.com] FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE [Cathy Lutz ] Re: I am soo Scared~~~~ [ChristiLB@aol.com] mailing list maint [Richard Lethin ] mailing list maint [Richard Lethin ] mailing list maint [Richard Lethin ] Kathy Stott [Rufus Brown ] Any Information? [Jo MacAleese ] Re: mailing list maint ["Eve Kinney" ] introduce myself [Claudia Everling ] Re: Tolerance on list [Pegclay123@aol.com] Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE ["Georgina Van Horn" ] Re: cause of scoliosis in question - help! [Pegclay123@aol.com] Re: Antibiotics and scoliosis [Pegclay123@aol.com] Re: Twin(s) with Scoliosis [Pegclay123@aol.com] Re: Just wondering ["Julieta Chan" ] Re: [Re: blood-ahhh!] ["Julieta Chan" ] Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE [R.N.A.@worldnet.att.net] Re: Just wondering ["Julieta Chan" ] Fwd: Alternative Cancer Treatment [RAHannig00@aol.com] Re: 16 year old daughter - 2nd surgery [Andrew the almighty amazing cool ] Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE [CarolPerk@aol.com] hey guys [msweety76@juno.com (claire L Cary)] Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE ["Sindy S Green" ] Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE [Linda Racine Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:19:03 -0400 Subject: mailing list maint 1. Current membership stats: Scoliosis 251 Scoliosis-digest 505 Scoliosis-medical 167 Scoliosis-teens 128 Scoliosis-child 43 2. Archive I installed an archive in http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/scoliosis/archive/. It's a preliminary version. There's no searching or semantic proximity matching. (Anyone know offhand of a free public domain content indexing source software package?) Eventually, Lycos, Excite and Altavista will notice it. Just limited threading. And it's not currently being updated automatically. It's an experiment; we'll see if it's useful. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Debgwest@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:52:29 EDT Subject: Re: Clothing, appearances, reactions, etc. Thanks, Robin, for the uplifting letter! Debra ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Jo MacAleese Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 12:01:45 -0500 Subject: Any Information? - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for information about surgical proceedures used for correcting kyphosis. Intensive surgery is being suggested to correct a rather complicated situation in my back - which probably originally resulted from a nasty 1982 fracture of L3/4, total disintegration of all lumbar disks, and instrumentation. I can't find very much about the types of surgeries available --- the options seem VERY limited to anterior/posterior. I've tried to find out if there are other courses of treatment, but haven't located anything. I'd appreciate any help with this search. Thanks. I'd also like to "talk" with anyone who has had this surgery. - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for information about surgical proceedures used for correcting kyphosis. 
Intensive surgery is being suggested to correct a rather complicated situation in my back - which probably originally resulted from a nasty 1982 fracture of L3/4, total disintegration of all lumbar disks, and instrumentation.  I can't find very much about the types of surgeries available --- the options seem VERY limited to anterior/posterior. I've tried to find out if there are other courses of treatment, but haven't located anything.  I'd appreciate any help with this search.  Thanks.  I'd also like to "talk" with anyone who has had this surgery. - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2-- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Megdoughs@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 04:00:49 EDT Subject: Re: I've been wearing the Milwaukee for over four years now. It really has helped my curve. I have a friend who wears a boston, I would have reallyliked to have worn one of those but it wouldn't have helped me. For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Ashley Walser Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 04:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Just wondering Christina, I can't run right now b/c i have mutliple stress factures, but before i had those i was having muscles spasmas in my back. I did run cross country last year and loved it, this year i'll be kinda running. by the way i am 15 (on august 28th) and i live in maryland. How bad was your curvuture? did the brace help? wbs ashley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Allison150@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:44:40 EDT Subject: Re: Just wondering My curvature with the brace was about 41 degrees and without the brace my curvature was about 51 degrees. When the time got closer to having the surgery I started feeling a lot more pain so I knew that having the surgery was the right thing to do. I was in the hospital for about 5 days. I actually left a day early because I did not want to stay anymore and my mom said that she could keep an eye on me. If you have any more questions please feel free to ask. Talk to you soon. Allison For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Allison150@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:49:39 EDT Subject: Re: Just wondering Ashley, Well, first of all they put me to sleep by using anestisia. Then they performed the surgery and the next thing I remeber I woke up in intensive care. After the surgery my curvature is now about 10-15 degrees. They can not fix it totally because problems could occur so they correct the curvature as much as possible. Well, I gotta go. Talk to you soon. Alliosn For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Cathy Lutz Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 09:47:43 -0700 Subject: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE Since April 27 surgery, my husband reminds me daily to stand up straight, hold my head erect, and relax the shoulders. As the day progresses and fatigue increases, I have a tendancy to lean forward, move my head forward, and tense the shoulders, partly to avoid [muscle?] pain in the back and sacrum. Is this part of the recovery process that will eventually go away as muscle strength returns? I have some concerns regarding flat back. Does it occur immediately after surgery or does the condition develop over time? At the 3-month post-op visit, the surgeon reassured me I do not have flat back. Nevertheless, the concern exisits because I look/walk like an aging robot! In an effort to improve posture, the physical therapist says to envision a string attached to the chest that is pulling me forward and to push on an imaginary pencil between the shoulder blades. It's a lot to think about just to walk erect! (A/P surgery, 1 TRSH rod T11-L3, 2 C-D rods T6-L4) Cathy [cwlutz@erols.com] ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: ChristiLB@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:16:32 EDT Subject: Re: I am soo Scared~~~~ Hi, Auna my Name is Christine. I know how you must feel because I've had three operations one when I was two and two when I was five. Really the operations wern't that bad the thing I think is the worst thing is when they have to take a little sample of blood after that it's smooth sailing allthe way. they bring you into this room and give you some yucky medicine then they put you on this table and put sand paper junk in your hair then they put you on this bed then weel you into the operating room and wate till your asleep then when you wake up it's all over you rest a few days then go home. Ihope that made you a little less afraid bye for now For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Richard Lethin Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:19:03 -0400 Subject: mailing list maint 1. Current membership stats: Scoliosis 251 Scoliosis-digest 505 Scoliosis-medical 167 Scoliosis-teens 128 Scoliosis-child 43 2. Archive I installed an archive in http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/scoliosis/archive/. It's a preliminary version. There's no searching or semantic proximity matching. (Anyone know offhand of a free public domain content indexing source software package?) Eventually, Lycos, Excite and Altavista will notice it. Just limited threading. And it's not currently being updated automatically. It's an experiment; we'll see if it's useful. For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Richard Lethin Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:19:03 -0400 Subject: mailing list maint 1. Current membership stats: Scoliosis 251 Scoliosis-digest 505 Scoliosis-medical 167 Scoliosis-teens 128 Scoliosis-child 43 2. Archive I installed an archive in http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/scoliosis/archive/. It's a preliminary version. There's no searching or semantic proximity matching. (Anyone know offhand of a free public domain content indexing source software package?) Eventually, Lycos, Excite and Altavista will notice it. Just limited threading. And it's not currently being updated automatically. It's an experiment; we'll see if it's useful. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-child-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Richard Lethin Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:19:03 -0400 Subject: mailing list maint 1. Current membership stats: Scoliosis 251 Scoliosis-digest 505 Scoliosis-medical 167 Scoliosis-teens 128 Scoliosis-child 43 2. Archive I installed an archive in http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/scoliosis/archive/. It's a preliminary version. There's no searching or semantic proximity matching. (Anyone know offhand of a free public domain content indexing source software package?) Eventually, Lycos, Excite and Altavista will notice it. Just limited threading. And it's not currently being updated automatically. It's an experiment; we'll see if it's useful. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Rufus Brown Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 10:37:57 -0400 Subject: Kathy Stott Hello Everyone, Kathy had her corrective surgery earlier this month. She seems to be doing remarkably well, all things considered. I had the pleasure of speaking with her last night. She said the hardest part to deal with has been the deflated lung. The lung is slowly becoming more functional. She has had much more pain with the anterior incision than the posterior. I think that is very encouraging, as we know that the anterior incision pain will go away with time. I am keeping a computer folder to send to Kathy when she starts computing again, which will contain well wishes from the scoliosis group. I am sorry to say that presently I only have 2 messages to send her. (hint hint) It would be nice to send her a folder with lots of messages! Have a great day. Cathy with a "C" ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Jo MacAleese Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 12:01:45 -0500 Subject: Any Information? - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for information about surgical proceedures used for correcting kyphosis. Intensive surgery is being suggested to correct a rather complicated situation in my back - which probably originally resulted from a nasty 1982 fracture of L3/4, total disintegration of all lumbar disks, and instrumentation. I can't find very much about the types of surgeries available --- the options seem VERY limited to anterior/posterior. I've tried to find out if there are other courses of treatment, but haven't located anything. I'd appreciate any help with this search. Thanks. I'd also like to "talk" with anyone who has had this surgery. - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for information about surgical proceedures used for correcting kyphosis. 
Intensive surgery is being suggested to correct a rather complicated situation in my back - which probably originally resulted from a nasty 1982 fracture of L3/4, total disintegration of all lumbar disks, and instrumentation.  I can't find very much about the types of surgeries available --- the options seem VERY limited to anterior/posterior. I've tried to find out if there are other courses of treatment, but haven't located anything.  I'd appreciate any help with this search.  Thanks.  I'd also like to "talk" with anyone who has had this surgery. - --------------987881CB5FD43ECB18152DD2-- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Eve Kinney" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:11:53 -0400 Subject: Re: mailing list maint Thank you for making the scoliosis archives available on-line. There are free indexing programs, but the common ones use CGI scripts and are resource hogs. But you could take a look at, for example, Matt Wright's on-line collection, which includes an indexing script. And there are others out there that are similar. I think it would be much easier for the end-user if you just string together all the archives as a large text file, which an interested party could download and search, using their own software. Or, even better, separate the archives into a couple of topics, and let end-users download those of interest. Just a thought. Eve *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/2/98, at 10:19 AM, Richard Lethin wrote: >1. Current membership stats: > Scoliosis 251 > Scoliosis-digest 505 > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Claudia Everling Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:14:19 -0400 Subject: introduce myself Hello everybody, I just joined this list and followed your discussions closely. I have a 3 curved scoliosis with a main thoracal curve (something about 60 Degree). It is not a big problem so far and even some orthopedics didn't recognize me as scoliotic in the first place. I started physiotherapie with 5 years of age together with one of those plaster shells you're sleeping in (sorry, I am not a native english speaker, so I don't know the term for that). Later I got one of those nice Milwaukee braces. But the most important thing was the physiotherapy, because it was based mostly on the breath and the power to "reposture" your body. In controlling and direct my breath I learend how to control my back muscels and derotate my back to a farely large degree. I wonder why nobody around here ever mentioned any kind of physiotherapy. My biggest concern, however, is that my 5 year old daughter has a scoliosis now too. I am worried, that she might not be as lucky as I was. Is there anybody with a similar constellation? Would it be worse for her just because my scoliosis is considerably strong? Looking forward to hear from you about passing your scoliosis to your child and your experience how to cope with it. Claudia - -------------------------------- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pegclay123@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:18:08 EDT Subject: Re: Tolerance on list I do not believe there is a bias toward alternative treatments on this list. I know that alternative treatments are banned for discussion on the other list and therefore more discussion of alternative treatments happens here on the "uncensored" list. This is a great forum for all types of information and needs to stay that way. If you attack an entire profession that is widely accepted, covered by most insurance companies and used by a high percentage of people on the list, people are probably going to answer in defense of that profession. You should expect this and not be so taken aback. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Georgina Van Horn" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 14:46:59 PDT Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE >Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 09:47:43 -0700 >From: Cathy Lutz >To: Scoliosis-Medical > ... straight, >hold my head erect, and relax the shoulders. As the day progresses and >fatigue increases, I have a tendancy to lean forward, move my head >forward, and tense the shoulders, partly to avoid [muscle?] pain in the > ... the >condition develop over time? At the 3-month post-op visit, the surgeon >reassured me I do not have flat back. Nevertheless, the concern exisits >because I look/walk like an aging robot! In an effort to improve >posture, the physical therapist says to envision a string attached to the >chest that is pulling me forward and to push on an imaginary pencil >between the shoulder blades. It's a lot to think about just to walk >erect! > ... "help". > Cathy- I too had the same concerns. I had surgery 11 months ago and for many months I thought I would walk stiff forever. It does get better over time. My therapist did tell me that because our spine is stationary we don't have the same fluid movements when we walk. But you will soon naturally start moving your arms and that helps to feel normal! As with all things concerning this major surgery, it takes lots of time. Georgina ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Jbgaffney@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:48:00 EDT Subject: Re: Just wondering do you have to wear a brace after having surgery? By the way any one from Massachusetts, if so E-mail me at Batongirl6@AOL.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Lilbit0603@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:50:25 EDT Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE As far as any surgery or Back/neck injury.. If things are tense or in Spasm..Ie (muscles)...we will tend to hold ourselfs stiff...or to move..or even breath a certin way to avoid any pain.... Once things heal and get back to where they belong...and these Back Muscles have been thru alot..... and Do take a while to heal and relax....You will be able to avoid the forward..and rounding of the Shoulders... But do as Theripst and hubby says..so you do not get into the habit of walking and holding yourself this way....Every once in a while ..un round them shoulders and try and walk with your head up and stright.... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Linda Racine Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:56:15 -0800 Subject: Re: Just wondering Batongirl... MOST teens do not have to wear post-surgical braces. It depends on what you have done, and what your doctor prefers. Linda For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pegclay123@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:12:30 EDT Subject: Re: cause of scoliosis in question - help! Syringo Myelia (a fluid filled cyst in the spinal cord), can also cause scoliosis and is not an unusual result of serious trauma to the spine. I would imagine that MRIs were done at the time of the accident, but you may want to ask if follow up MRI should be done. The syrinx could start out quite small and then continue to grow and cause the soliosis. My daughters scoliosis which was diagnosed at age 5 was due to a syrinx. The syrinx in her case was not due to trauma but due to a problem at the base of her brain. I do talk to others on the support page for syringo myelia whose syrinx was due to trauma. Something you may want to check into, as attempted straightening of a spine that has cord complications, without first addressing those complications can have devestating results. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pegclay123@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:39:51 EDT Subject: Re: Antibiotics and scoliosis Heres a twist to the antibiotic theory. Suppose the scoliosis, or underlying condition that causes the scoliosis also caused the young bodies to become ill more often therefore causing more ear infections colds etc. (Instead of the antibiotics causing scoli, maybe the actual cause of scoli caused other types of weaknesses to immunity as well?) Even though the scoli had not yet presented the underlying cause could have been causing the problems requiring antibiotics? The reason that I thought this might be something to think about is that my daughter also took lots of antibiotics, had frequent strep, ear infections etc. But the cause of her scoliosis is almost definitely the syrinx in her spinal cord which was caused by the chiari malformation at the base of her brain. It is suspected that the location of the syrinx in her cord could have also caused her to have problems with digestion and metabolizing certain nutrients correctly. After having her deficiencies checked and remedied through change in diet, supplements and exercises to work the affected muscles etc all of her illnesses, constant congestion, frequent strep, allergies etc. went away. Just a thought. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Pegclay123@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:47:34 EDT Subject: Re: Twin(s) with Scoliosis I know I beat this topic to death, but it is so important. If there are no malformed bones and a child is diagnosed as young as 4 an MRI should definitely be ordered. I don't know if your doctor has done so, but you should really insist if they haven't. Treatment of problems that would show up on an MRI are so much easier to treat when a child is very young, and you want to have any potential situation taken care of as soon as possible to prevent any further progression of the scoliosis if possible. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Julieta Chan" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:25:39 PDT Subject: Re: Just wondering Ashley, I'm sorry, but was that message addressed to me or some other person???? Julieta >Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 05:23:45 -0700 (PDT) >From: Ashley Walser >Subject: Re: Just wondering > ... to >"scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Julieta Chan" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:27:44 PDT Subject: Re: [Re: blood-ahhh!] Nadia, I totally agree with you...as a said in the last message, I lost a lot of weight cuz you just don't feel like eating when you're immobile. Julieta ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: R.N.A.@worldnet.att.net Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:37:02 +0100 Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE My surgery was June 1. I had no problem walking normally indoors. I found myself more "stiff" when I was out. But I don't lean forward. I am also much more relaxed when I sit and sleep as well. Within the last week, more of the back muscles have loosen up and a lot of numbness (not all) has disapppeared. I find that I am walking normally now. I still have an area on my back--horizontal, right under the shoulder blades, that is still quite stiff and the muscles pull in that area. I try not to concentrate on that. However, when I came home from the hospital I found myself doing the following--I would hunch my shoulders up so I wouldn't feel the stiffness of the muscles in the shoulder blade area. I caught a glance of myself in the mirror--UGH!!! So I became very aware of when I did that and now that's not a problem--I sort of trained myself, which took some time. Now if I could only get rid of that muscle burning in the right shoulder area I'd feel much better!! ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Julieta Chan" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:34:59 PDT Subject: Re: Just wondering To whoever wrote this message For me at least, I didn't have to wear a brace afterwards. I'm sure a lot of ppl didn't have to either. Julieta >From: Jbgaffney@aol.com >Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:48:00 EDT >To: scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu > ... Batongirl6@AOL.com > > > > ... to >"scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: RAHannig00@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 21:24:02 EDT Subject: Fwd: Alternative Cancer Treatment This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_902107442_boundary Content-ID: <0_902107442@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I found the following book at amazon.com : The Alternative Medicine Handbook : The Complete Reference Guide to Alternative and Complementary Therapies ~ Usually ships in 24 hours Barrie R. Cassileth / Hardcover / Published 1998 Our Price: $17.50 ~ You Save: $7.50 (30%) Read more about this title... And at barnesandnoble.com : The Alternative Medicine Handbook In-Stock: Ships Immediately. Barrie R. Cassileth / Hardcover / Date Published: December 1997 Retail Price: $25.00 Our Price: $17.50, You Save $7.50 (30%) Amazon also had one more by this author. I thought this might be what you were looking for. I hope it helps. Robin. - --part0_902107442_boundary Content-ID: <0_902107442@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v46.20) with SMTP; Sat, 01 Aug 1998 13:01:23 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA09323; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.1/AI2.7/ai.master.life:2.2) id LAA13036 for scoliosis-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.getaway.net (mail.getaway.net [208.134.18.4]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.1/AI2.7/ai.master.life:2.2) with SMTP id LAA13030 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.134.18.123] by mail.getaway.net (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id va279885 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 10:28:48 -0500 Message-ID: <35C34367.237C@getaway.net> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:33:43 -0600 From: hmc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: scoliosis@ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: Alternative Cancer Treatment References: <35C1D734.71661F1E@reservoir.com> Sender: bounce-scoliosis@ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: scoliosis@ai.mit.edu X-Info1: For help file send msg to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with word "info" in message body (not subject) X-Info2: Or, write to "owner-scoliosis@ai.mit.edu" with your question. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit OK, Rich, I checked, and "the big silver book" is not by Cassileth. His name sounds familiar, however, so it's probably a standard title for one of the bookstores I worked in. First name is possibly Andrew or Michael (at least, they sound familiar to me) Sorry this is so vague! - --hmc. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". - --part0_902107442_boundary-- ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Andrew the almighty amazing cool dude and all round good guy Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:44:52 +1000 Subject: Re: 16 year old daughter - 2nd surgery I think you are all mad ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: CarolPerk@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:12:54 EDT Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE I got the impression from former posts that flat back syndrome was something happened years post surgery. Also, I was given the impression that the occurrence of flat back syndrome was FAR less likely to happen with the current and improved instrumentation. I am 7 months post surgery. You still have a lot of healing to do. As a comparison, my 3rd month was the pits! I was very tired a lot and I was stiff. It was easy to do something to trigger pain because I was more mobile but still healing. Right now I'm having trouble keeping the pain that I still occurs in perspective even though I know It's not as bad as it was say a few months ago. Hang in there and trust your doctor. C. P. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: msweety76@juno.com (claire L Cary) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:10:44 -0400 Subject: hey guys Everyone, I haven't written in a long time. But I've enjoyed reading everyone's letters. It helps knowing what other people have gone through that have the same thing that you do. Anyways, is anyone from VA? Just wondering!! ~claire _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-teens-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: "Sindy S Green" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:44:24 -0000 Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE Cathy, It's probably mostly fatigue. I'm 6 months post-op and just finished a terrible bout with "shoulder blade" pain. My Dr. gave me muscle relaxers to "snap" me out of it AND I took a vacation. The pain went away. I suspect mostly because major stresses were eliminated while on vacation. My pain was mostly on my right side----I'm right handed. I do Everything right handed---lots of stuff. I believe my pain was due to overworked muscles. I'm trying to balance my work using my left hand whenever possible so the right doesn't get so fatigued. it's not easy, but as long as you make a conscience effort to relax the "new" back muscles and keep them from stressing out, you might avoid some of this pain. I have to tell myself all the time to relax and let go....I find myself really dropping my shoulders and it makes a huge difference. This is all hind sight you can benefit from! About "Flat Back"--I thought that was only a Harrington Rod thing. My Dr. curved my rods in the OR to fit my back so I have a natural sway to my back. Maybe I'm a little "pitched" forward, but, I agree that's it's only me trying to find my new balance--nothing to worry about. The shoulder blade pain was terrible. Try to avoid it by NOT stressing your back muscles. I know that's easier said than done, but pay attention to how you are holding yourself, you are probably overdoing it. Your husband is doing you a HUGE favor to remind you. If you are right handed, use your left whenever possible and visa versa....I'm dealing with a new back pain now, from coughing. I'm in Dallas and believe it or not, I have a cold!!!! New back muscles, new coughing muscles, getting them in shape I guess. Nothing I can't handle! We've come along way! Hang in there! Sindy ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Deborah Harlow Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 23:49:36 -0400 Subject: Re: introduce myself Hello Claudia, I would be very interested to learn where you are from and who you did your physiotherapy with. Is there a particular school of therapy that your therapist practices? I'm sure others on the list would also be interested to learn of it. Sincerely, Deborah At 05:14 PM 8/2/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello everybody, >I just joined this list and followed your discussions closely. I have a 3 > ... ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Linda Racine Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:10:18 -0800 Subject: Re: FLAT BACK, FATIGUE, or POSTURE Carol.... Although Elizabeth and Kelley will disagree with me, flatback happens only rarely with today's instrumentation systems, and only when the hardware is installed badly. Regards, Linda ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-medical-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: VSlaybaugh@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:20:14 EDT Subject: Re: Who's this? Would someone please remove this guy from the list. All he is doing is ridiculing everyone here. He's only on here to get attention and make trouble. This is the second immature posting I have seen by him. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: VSlaybaugh@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:22:40 EDT Subject: Re: Who's this? In a message dated 8/2/98 10:15:54 PM Central Daylight Time, andrew.woodman@acts.org.au writes: > I think you are all mad Would someone please remove this guy from the list. All he is doing is ridiculing everyone here. He's only on here to get attention and make trouble. This is the second immature posting I have seen by him. ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ From: Andrew the almighty amazing cool dude and all round good guy Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 15:48:28 +1000 Subject: Re: Who's this? VSlaybaugh@aol.com wrote: > > Would someone please remove this guy from the list. All he is doing is > ridiculing everyone here. He's only on here to get attention and make > ... yes please unsubscribe me for the love of god please! P.S sorry for offending you VSlaybaugh@aol.com and all the other peoples out there ______ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "scoliosis-request@ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". ------------------------------ End of scoliosis V1 #907 ************************ You're reading a composite here: the scoliosis-digest is a daily encapsulation of messages sent to four different mailing lists: scoliosis, scoliosis-medical, scoliosis-child and scoliosis-teens. If you're responding, you can determine which list message above was posted to by looking at the message footer. To post your own email to scoliosis, send it to "scoliosis@ai.mit.edu". To post your own email to scoliosis-medical list, send it to "scoliosis-medical@ai.mit.edu". To post to scoliosis-child, send your message to "scoliosis-child@ai.mit.edu." To post your message to scoliosis-teens, send it to "scoliosis-teens@ai.mit.edu". 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