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This is a test of my new e-mail.



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Why did my mail disappear?

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To: akalmus@hotmail.MIT.EDU, dalie@MIT.EDU, newt3d@MIT.EDU, rajul@MIT.EDU
Subject: overnight trip Sat & Sun

Here's the plan:
We'll meet on the first floor of the student center at 8 am Saturday. From
there we'll head north, stopping at some point to go shopping. I want you
to break into pairs. As pairs, you will buy your own food, set up your own
camp, and cook your own food. I'll be around to provide guidance as needed.
After shopping, we'll proceed to Rumney, NH. Time permitting, we'll hike up
Rattlesnake, a very short mountain with a view near Camalot. The hike is about
2 h round trip. You shouldn't need any special equipment, although feel free 
to bring snowshoes (you'll need them for Sunday in any case). 
I'm hoping we'll get to Camalot with plenty of daylight to spare so you can 
explore the area, choose a camping spot, and set up camp in daylight. To this
end, we might choose to skip the Rattlesnake hike.
The Camelot cabin is nearby in case cooking or staying warm while sleeping 
doesn't work for you, but we'll ignore the cabin unless we need it.
Sunday, after cooking breakfast and breaking camp, we'll go hiking nearby.
Either to Rattlesnake if we didn't do it the day before, or to Three Ponds, 
which is another easy hike that goes by some pretty ponds. You will need 
snowshoes for Three Ponds.  
I am staying in New Hampshire Sunday night, so you will return to Boston by
yourselves. I expect you'll be back by 10 pm Sunday night.
I'll be at office hours tomorrow evening. Each pair should rent one tent. 
Do any of you know each other? If not, I suggest that Audrey and Dalia 
combine forces and Rajul and Mike collaborate with each other. 

If any of you decide not to come, please let me know soon since one other
woman has expressed a desire to come.

Require gear:
snowshoes
1 tent/pair
winter sleeping bags
foam pad(s)
headlamp (or flashlight) and spare batteries

I will provide stoves. Although if you can bring one, let me know.

See you Thursday at office hours.

Susan
Do not reply to this e-mail!!!!  I won't be able to check this account.
Send any e-mail to susan_ruff@hmco.com
(617) 351-5320 (w)
(617) 491-5021 (h)

ps: more required gear--money for food & driver

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> 
> 
> ***************************************************************************
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!	ATTENTION CAMELOT KEYHOLDERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> ***************************************************************************
> 
> The official list of Camelot keyholders is now accessible on the MITOC web page under the Camelot subsection.  In an effort to keep this list up to date, please check the web page to confirm that your information is correct.  The page can be accessed directly at:
>            www.mit.edu/activities/mitoc/rentals/camelot/keyholder-list.html
> 
> !!!!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Any keyholders who became active prior to January 1995 (including those whose date is unknown), will be removed from the keyholder list in two (2) weeks unless the cabin manager is notified.
> 
> Please send any corrected information to patbrown@mit.edu
> 
> Thanks for your cooperation,
> 
> Pat Brown
> Camelot Cabin Manager
> 

Susan Ruff's address is wrong.  Current address is:

	susan@mitoc.mit.edu

And even though she first became a cabin keyholder in '94 she
should stay on the list since she continues to lead trips for us
over Winter School and she is the editor for our new Boston
Rocks.

Cathy Lavelle should also be kept on the list because she
continues to lead trips for us over Winter School.  Her current
email address is:

	archimedes@alum.mit.edu

						---Bonnie

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Sounds good to me.  I'll update their info.

Pat

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Hi Susan,

I'll come by your apartment tonight at 8:30 (unless you say otherwise).
I hope you had a good climb on Sunday,

Jim

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We need to take photographs of cliffs before leaves are on the trees again. That
means we need these photographs by the end of April...just 2-4 weekends left of
clear cliff viewing! These photographs will be used to help make the cliff
illustrations.
If you can go out and take pictures in the next few weeks, even if it's just for
one afternoon, please let me know. You'll be reimbursed for film and developing,
and for transportation if you're going out of your way.
We already have volunteers for the climbing areas south of Boston and for Black
and White Rocks (although I'm sure they'd be happy for help). Photographers are
needed for the following areas, in order of greatest need:

RedRock
Stage Fort Park
Den Rock
Hammond Pond
Crow Hill
Black and White Rocks
College Rock

Let me know if you can help. Thanks!

Also, consider taking black and white photos as you climb this spring. We'll be
looking for at least one photo of people climbing at each climbing area to
include in the book. The photos should clearly show a landmark climb or rock of
the area since, in addition to making Boston Rocks more attractive, these photos
will serve as aids for locating climbs.

I check this e-mail account a few times a week. If you want to reach me more
quickly than that, it's best to call:
h: (617) 491-5021 
w: (617) 351-5320

Happy Climbing!

Susan

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We need someone to photograph the rocks at Hammond Pond, Den Rock, Joe's Rock,
and Red Rock soon! Hammond Pond is the most urgent and should be done in the
next few days. The photographs should ideally be taken in the morning on a
somewhat overcast day since that's when the lighting is best there. You don't
need to be a great photographer since the photographs will be traced to make the
final illustration.

Hammond Pond is in biking distance from MIT, and it's also reachable by public
transportation. Hammond pond is also a great place to boulder, so you could
intersperse photography with play...

You should take black and white prints, ideally the kind that can be developed
like color prints since that's faster to develop. You'll be reimbursed.

Let me know if you think you can take photographs at Hammond Pond or any of the
other areas. We already have some photos of Hammond Pond, so we should
coordinate to avoid duplicating work.

(Also, if you've already taken some photos, please let me know at
susan_ruff@hmco.com. I haven't had a chance to check my mit account and may not
be able to in the next day or two.)

Thanks!
Susan
susan_ruff@hmco.com (for brief time-sensitive mail)
ruff@mit.edu (everything else)




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Hi,

Summer is certainly here.  The weather has been warm for quite a
while.  So there are lots of biking, canoeing, sailing, and
hiking trips to keep you busy this summer.  Footnotes is in the
mail and should be in your mailbox very soon.  If you can't wait,
stop by the new HI-AYH ENEC office at 1105 Comm Ave. (2nd floor)
(M-F 12-6, Th 12-8) for an extra copy.

One trip, the whale watch to George's Island on August 25th-26th
didn't make Footnotes, unfortunately.  So please alert friends
who might want to go.

Pops at the Hatchshell was postponed due to a scheduling mistake
-- no concert on the night we had originally picked.  So you can
still join us this Thursday, July 8th for a Gospel & Duke
Ellington concert.

Notice that there's a new section called "Recurring Events."
Look there for events that happen more often than once a month.

Whitewater Rafting trip might be moved.  Having trouble with
lodging.  Contact Bonnie if interested in trip regardless of
whether you can make that weekend.

Canoe trips havn't been filling up this year.  Contact Bonnie if
you have an interest in moonlight trips and/or weekend Battenkill
trip.  There's still lots of room on all of them.

We're starting to look at fall trips.  Anyone interested in
leading or co-leading a hike, bike or maybe a walk, please let me
know.  Any other ideas?

Looking for travel stories for Footnotes.  Have you been anywhere
interesting and stayed at hostels?  If so, consider writing a
short article for Footnotes.  Contact Bonnie for more info.

HOSTEL CLOSINGS:
	The Northfield, MA hostel will be closed during 1999, but
plans to reopen in 2000. The El Paso, TX, and Atlanta, GA hostels
are no longer HI-affiliated.  The Windsor Home Hostel, CT will
close at the end of the year.

Have a nice summer!

						---Bonnie
						   bonnie@math.mit.edu


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Eastern New England Council of HI-AYH Activities for Summer '99
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RECURRING EVENTS


Weekly Tuesday Evening Arrowed Rides!
Leaving from Cleveland Circle
July at 6:30pm
August at 6:00pm
September at 5:30pm

Meet every Tuesday in Cleveland Circle on the Brighton/Brookline
line for a moderately paced 15 or 20 mile social ride on pleasant
suburban streets and roads with generally light traffic.  This is
not a training ride.  We explore several areas of scenic South
Brookline before passing through Newton Highlands and Newton
Centre.  Some help available for new riders.  Cleveland Circle is
the intersection of Beacon Street and Chestnut Hill Avenue.
Parking is somewhat limited so you're encouraged to ride to the
ride.  Meet near the public parking lot on the SW corner near
Cinema.  Charles Hansen, 617/734-0720h or
<chansEn@jhancock.com>.


Evening Sail Boston
Wednesdays all Summer
July 14th, 21st & 28th
August 4th, 11th & 18th

3-hour cruise from the Boston Harbor Sailing Club, near the
Aquarium.  6-9pm.  No previous sailing experience necessary.  
Stan Wasserman 617/733-2745 or <Wasserwrld@aol.com>.


Overnight Sail to Stellwagon Sancturary 
Mon-Wed, July 12th-14th
Sat-Mon, July 31st-Aug 2nd   
Tues-Wed, Aug 17th-18th

Sail overnight on 26 ft. sailboat from Boston Harbor Sail Club to
this new National Marine Sanctuary.  Previous sailing experience
on Wed. eve. sails preferred; limited space.  For reservation
call Stan Wasserman 617/733-2745 or <Wasserwrld@aol.com>.


JULY


Pops at the Hatchshell
Friday, July 2nd
*** Now on Thursday, July 8th ***

Join us for a Boston tradition of good music, food and company.
Organized potluck picnic on the banks of the Charles.  Call to
let us know what you'll bring and how to find us.  Free parking
available.  Rain date will be July 6th, 7th or 8th.  Bonnie
Friedman 617/253-2685w or <bonnie@math.mit.edu> and Glenn
Ketterle 781/396-1351h before 10:30pm or <glennk@mit.edu>.


Glide to the Bristol Parade
Sunday, July 4th
*** cancelled ***

In-line skate ~15 or 25 miles (round-trip) to the country's
oldest Independence Day Parade in Bristol, RI.  East Bay Bike
Path is very scenic, going along the bay and winding around a
little, but is very flat.  Leisurely, relaxed, non-competitive
cyclists are also welcome.  Bring shoes to change into during
parade (if skating), lock, lunch or money to buy, and something
to sit on.  Helmets required for all.  Protective pads strongly
recommended.  Bonnie Friedman <bonnie@math.mit.edu>,
617/253-2685w or <bonnie@math.mit.edu>.


Mean Streets -- Harvard Square
Thursday, July 8th at 6:30pm

Urban evening ATB (mountain or hybrid bikes recommended) ride of
about 10 diverse miles.  We'll explore the Harvard, Radcliffe and
Leslie campuses, and whatever streets, alleys and sidewalks we
can find connecting them.  Ride through a building designed by Le
Corbusier!  Bring U-lock for optional post-ride activity.  Start:
Weld Boathouse at corner of Memorial Drive and JFK Street.
Charles Hansen, 617/734-0720h or <chansEn@jhancock.com>.


Summer Minuteman Skate 
Tuesday, July 13th at 6:30pm

We'll skate from Lexington towards Bedford and back, on flat,
wide, nicely-paved Minuteman Path.  Beginner and novice skaters
welcome.  We'll skate up to 9 miles depending on group ability.
Meet in Lexington center behind US Trust bank building on the
bike path.  Helmets required, protective pads strongly
recommended; rain will cancel/postpone.  Henry Gardner
781/894-4383h 'til 11pm, 781/894-2030w.


Battenkill Canoe Weekend Trip
Friday-Sunday, July 16th-18th

Stay at HI-Greenwood Lodge/Woodford hostel in Bennington, VT
Friday night.  Drive a short distance Saturday morning for two
days of canoeing on the Battenkill River; lots of easy
quickwater.  Spend Saturday night camping on the banks of the
river.  Cost approx. $65-70; much less if bring own canoe.  Some
canoeing experience required.  Bonnie Friedman
<bonnie@math.mit.edu>, 617/253-2685w or Pavlik Mintz
<pavlik@mintz.net>, 781/863-0334h.


Blue Hills Houghton Hike & Trail Work
Sunday, July 18th from 9am-1pm	

Join Friends of the Blue Hills for a hike in the Houghton Section
of the Blue Hills, Milton/Quincy.  Novice, 4 mi., David
Hodgdon 781/326-0079.


Summer Lincoln Ride
Wednesday, July 21st at 6:30pm

Come enjoy the long days of summer with a beautiful 20 mile ride.
Meet at the Lincoln train station, behind Lincoln Mall, Lincoln
Road, Lincoln.  Dinner after the ride.  Henry Gardner
781/894-4383h 'til 11pm, 781/894-2030w.


Historic Quarries Hike & Trail Work
Saturday, July 24th from 9am-4pm

Join Friends of the Blue Hills for a hike to historic sites
including Granite Quarries, First Railroad and Incline, and Lyons
Turning Mill.  Meet at Blue Hills Res.  Int./adv., 6 mi.
David Hodgdon 781/326-0079.


Mt. Monadnock Hike
Sunday, July 25th

Come out for a nice day hike on the most visited mountain in the
Americas.  We'll try to find a quiet trail though and get in some
great views.  Call to find out about meeting place.  Henry
Gardner 781/894-4383h 'til 11pm, 781/894-2030w.


Moonlight Canoeing on the Charles
Tuesday, July 27th

What could be more blissful than paddling a canoe down the
Charles under a full moon?  Hearken back to the heyday of
canoeing at the turn of the century.  This is a revival of one of
the most popular activities of that time.  We will have a quick
canoe instruction for novices before paddling off into setting
sun and an evening of relaxation and conversation.  The moon will
rise to light our way.  Organized potluck in the canoes on the
river.  Bring warm clothes, matches, flashlight, whistle (if you
have one), $15 (for canoe rental), and an appetizer, main
dish, dessert or beverage to share.  Rain dates might be arranged
if necessary.  Bonnie Friedman <bonnie@math.mit.edu> or
617/253-2685w.  Next date will be Tuesday, August 24th.


"Sin & Flesh" Ride (RI)
Saturday, July 31st at 10:30am

No folks, this is not a trip to Moonstone Beach.  We'll bicycle
~35 mi. on the Little Compton section of RI, starting near "Sin &
Flesh" Brook in Tiverton.  Bring your swimsuits -- there are
beach stops.  To carpool from Greater Boston, meet at 9am at the
"Park & Ride" lot on Rt. 138 in Milton (across from Great Blue
Hill; 1/2 mi. north of Rt.  128).  If you are near RI or SE
Mass., meet at 10:30am at Tiverton Town Hall/Fort Barton Park on
Highland Ave. in Tiverton, RI.  Call for rain date.  Mike
Schuttenberg 781/891-7006 (h), 617/621-1751 x128 (w), or
<mschuttenberg@hotmail.com>.


AUGUST


Mean Streets:  South End
Thursday, August 5th at 6:30pm

Urban evening ATB ride (mountain or hybrid bikes recommended) of
about 10 miles of streets, alleys, bike paths, steps and
sidewalks.  Explore the Northeastern campus, Dudley Square (real
mean streets!), City and University Hospital areas, and the
architectural splendor of the South End.  Bring U-lock for
optional post-ride activity.  Start: Boston -- Copley Square
Park, Boylston Street between Clarendon and Dartmouth.
Directions: Mass Pike or Storrow Drive to Copley Square exit,
call for details if needed.  Charles Hansen 617/734-0720h,
<chansEn@jhancock.com>.


Plum Island Ride & Beach
Saturday, August 7th at 10am

Bike ~40 scenic miles round-trip with long beach stop on Plum
Island.  Meet at Masconomet School; Exit 51 off Rt. 95, Endicott
Road, Topsfield/Middleton.  At end of ramp, turn right, school is
immediately on your right.  Call to confirm if weather is a
questionable beach day.  Bring lunch, sunscreen, towel and beach
toys.  Raindate: Sunday, August 8th.  Donald Rivkin
781/643-4632('til 10pm), <drivkin@world.std.com>.


Blue Hill Hike & Trail Work
Sunday, August 8th from 10am-4pm

Join Friends of the Blue Hills for an intermediate hike and light
trail work.  David Hodgdon 781/326-0079.


Esplanade In-Line Skating
Wednesday, August 11th at 6:30pm

We'll meet in Cambridge, in front of the MIT dome, on Memorial
Drive just east of the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue and
Memorial Drive (free parking).  We'll skate across the Harvard
Bridge to the Esplanade and go out for a bite to eat afterwards.
Helmets required, protective pads strongly recommended; rain will
cancel; call if weather questionable.  Henry Gardner
781/894-4383h 'til 11pm, 781/894-2030w.


North Shore Forests & Parks Ride
Saturday, August 14th at 10am

Cycle 55 miles thru 4 or 5 MA forests and parks across Essex
County.  Swim in forest ponds along the way.  Meet at the Gazebo
on Wakefield Common.  From Rt. 128 take Exit 40 - Route 129,
Wakefield/N. Reading.  Take Rt. 129 to Wakefield center (first
right from 128 North; 3/4 of way around rotary from the other
direction).  Go 200 yrds. and turn right on Main St., following
lake.  The Gazebo is at the south end of the lake.  For more info
contact Mike Schuttenberg 781/891-7006 (h), 617/621-1751 x128
(w), or <mschuttenberg@hotmail.com>.


Remember the Ladies
Sunday, August 15th at 10am

Savor the seashore and hats off to history: combine a 25 mile
bike ride along the coast in different neighborhoods of Quincy
with an historic re-enactment at the Adams National Historic Park
in Quincy, where a special program will feature portrayals of
some famous women in early American history.  Register please as
number may be limited due to possible special tour.  Call Sue
Scheible at 617/876-0773 ('til 9pm) or <scheible@ledger.com>.


TALCAM:  Tour Around Lake Champlain, Adirondacks & Montreal 
Saturday-Sunday, August 14th-22th

Join us for a summer tour circumnavigating beautiful Lake
Champlain, with two nights in downtown Montreal.  Starting from
Whitehall, NY (the southern tip of Lake Champlain, between Albany
and Rutland) we cycle north on the Vermont side of Lake
Champlain, staying close to the shore and generally following the
Lake Champlain Bikeways route.  After a free day in cosmopolitan
Montreal, we return south along the New York shore, with two days
of riding in the Adirondacks and a night in Lake Placid.  Daily
mileage is usually 60-70 miles; longer options available.
Lodging will be in hotels, motels and inns.  Cost of $775
includes lodging, sag van, road lunches, five breakfasts, one
dinner, T-shirt, and extensive tour literature.  Charles Hansen
617/734-0720h, <chansEn@jhancock.com>.


Evening Skate & Bike -- *New* Watertown
Wednesday, August 18th at 6:30pm

We'll meet in Watertown Square, at the end of Charles River Road,
across from bus station, for an exploration of the newest section
of bicycle path along the Watertown and Newton sections of the
Charles River.  Maybe we can get all the way to Waltham.  Lots of
restaurants in Watertown Square to choose from after.  Leisurely,
relaxed, non-competitive cyclists are welcome to join skaters.
Helmets required for all, protective pads strongly recommended
for skaters; rain will cancel.  Call to confirm.  Bonnie Friedman
<bonnie@math.mit.edu>, 617/253-2685w and Henry Gardner
781/894-4383h ('til 11pm), 781/894-2030w.


CRW Invitational Rally
Saturday, August 21st starting at 9am

Charles River Wheelmen invites members of local cycling clubs to
join for a day of riding, socializing, eating, trading ideas
for new rides, and relating experiences in the beautiful
country northwest of Boston at HI-Littleton (Friendly Crossways
Hostel and Conference Center) in MA.  Three arrowed rides of
approximately 20, 40 and 60 miles will be offered, with cue
sheets and maps.  A freshly-prepared sumptuous luncheon will be
available for $11 per person at the hostel, starting at 1:30pm.
Showers will also be available at $2/each (bring your own soap
and towel). Those wishing to stay at the hostel the night before
(and/or after) should contact the hostel directly to make
arrangements in advance (978/456-9386).  Pre-registration and
payment of $11 is required by July 15th for lunch.  Please use
the form on web page <http://crw.org/invitational.htm> or call
Rosalie at 781-272-7785 for more info.


South Shore Seacoast Cycle
Sunday, August 22nd at 10am

A 33 (or 48) mile ride along some of the prettiest parts of the
coast in Cohasset and Scituate.  Flat to gently rolling, with a
few short hills, including two dramatic cliffs, a lighthouse,
Coast Guard station, historic water tower, and an optional beach
stop.  Near the end of the ride, there is an extra, optional 15
mi. loop to the tip of Hull, with a closeup view of the harbor
islands and a panoramic view from Fort Revere.  Bring lunch or
money to buy.  Start at Wompatuck State Park in Hingham.
Directions: take Route 3 south from Quincy to Exit 14, go left at
the end of the exit ramp, continue straight through the light at
the intersection with Rt. 53 onto Rt. 228 North (Main Street).
Look for signs on the right for Wompatuck State Park, turn right
onto Free Street, follow to sign for park entrance and Union
Street on the right.  Enter the park and go to the Visitors
Center on the right.  Rain cancels.  Please call to confirm.  Sue
Scheible 617/876-0773 ('til 9pm) or <scheible@ledger.com>.


Moonlight Canoeing on the Charles
Tuesday, August 24th

What could be more blissful than paddling a canoe down the
Charles under a full moon?  Hearken back to the heyday of
canoeing at the turn of the century.  This is a revival of one of
the most popular activities of that time.  We will have a quick
canoe instruction for novices before paddling off into setting
sun and an evening of relaxation and conversation.  The moon will
rise to light our way.  Organized potluck in the canoes on the
river.  Bring warm clothes, matches, flashlight, whistle (if you
have one), $15 (for canoe rental), and an appetizer, main
dish, dessert or beverage to share.  Rain dates might be arranged
if necessary.  Bonnie Friedman <bonnie@math.mit.edu> or
617/253-2685w.  Next date will be Tuesday, September 21st.


Overnight Whale Watch to George's Bank
Wednesday-Thursday, August 25th-26th

Meet in Boston at 8pm and take commuter rail to Gloucester (or
meet at 10pm in Gloucester).  Go out on overnight whale watch
boat and wake up at George's Bank.  Return that evening, 6pm to
Gloucester or 8pm to Boston.  $125 includes cabin accommodations.
Food and travel extra.  Stan Wasserman 617/733-2745 or
<Wasserwrld@aol.com>.


7th Almost Annual Whitewater Rafting in Maine
Friday-Sunday, August 27th-29th

Spend Saturday in inflatable or sit-on-top kayaks on the lower
Kennebec and hiking to Moxie Falls; then on Sunday raft the whole
Kennebec including Magic Falls.  Fri. and Sat. nights are at a
cozy B&B with lots of great food.  Rafting, kayaking, lodging, 2
breakfasts, Sat. dinner, 2 lunches, 2 happy hours, and some snack
food included for $185 (possibly extra for "couples" rooms).
Some paddling experience required.  Come early for optional
hiking or mountain biking on Friday.  Reg. needed by Aug. 20th.
Bonnie Friedman <bonnie@math.mit.edu>, 617/253-2685w.


Emerald Necklace Walk/Caribbean Festival
Saturday, August 28th

Meet at the Boston Hostel to walk this famous linear parkway
through Boston, then celebrate Caribbean Carnival at Franklin
Park with the parade, ethnic food, music and dancing.  Walk is
over six miles.  Might take T one-way.  Call for meeting time and
details.  Mike Schuttenberg 781/891-7006 (h), 617/621-1751 x128
(w), or <mschuttenberg@hotmail.com>.


SEPTEMBER


Mean Streets:  Waltham
Thursday, September 2nd at 6pm SHARP!

Sub/Urban Evening ATB ride of about 10 miles of varied terrain --
mountain or hybrid bikes de rigeur.  Explore streets, alleys,
single-track, the Brandeis campus, Waterfront Park, Mt. Feake
cemetery, industrial areas, and other features of Watch City.
Bring U-lock for optional authentic Mexican dinner.  Start:
Waltham City Hall on the common, Main St. (Rt. 20) at Moody St.
Directions: Rt. 95/128 to exit 26, east on Rt. 20 for about 2
miles.  Charles Hansen 617/734-0720h, <chansEn@jhancock.com>.


Little Blue Hill Hike & Trail Work
Saturday, September 4th from 10am-1pm

Join Friends of the Blue Hills for a 4 mile novice/int. hike and
light trail work.  David Hodgdon 781/326-0079.


5th Annual Cape Ann(e) Ride
Sunday, September 12th at 10:30am

This is a pleasant & popular 35-40 mile ride thru Gloucester,
Rockport & along the Annisquam River.  Meet at Manchester
Junior-Senior High School, on Lincoln Street, just off Rt. 127 in
Manchester.  Leisurely pace, with stops for beaches and views.
Lunch stop at beach just outside Rockport center.  Option to go
to Singing Beach after the ride.  For info and if weather is
questionable call Anne Cullen 617/661-6640.  Can also take
Commuter Rail to Manchester and bike short distance to start.

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Hi folks,

Susan Ruff suggested that we survey the climbing sites and asked me if my
receiver could be borrowed for this purpose.  I am more than willing to
lend out my receiver for this purpose.  We should decide if it worth the
effort.

I am not sure how *useful* accurate cooridinates would be for climbers, but
I think it is fabulous for marketing the book - "New edition with GPS
coordinates".  What do you think?

Susan told me that stand alone performance (25 meter) of GPS was not
adequate.  A couple of weeks ago I built up a cable to interface a DGPS FM
reciever that we have here at Lincoln to my GPS receiver.  With this setup
we can get about 5 meter accuracy.  Unfortunately, I had to turn this DGPS
unit over to another group today.

I am sure I can beg, borrow, or steal another DGPS unit, but I need to be
convinced that you folks want to pursue this.  I don't feel like I can do
the surveying myself because I have never even seen the sights, much less
climbed them.  I would like to train a few of you climbers and have you do
the work. :-)

Let me know what you think.

--Tim


_______________________________________________________
Timothy D. Hall
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cell: (617) 233-5027 (if no answer, call lab #)
Home: (617) 225-8427 (806-5-8427 from Lincoln phone)
Lab:  (781) 981-4402 (181-4402 from MIT phone)
Fax:  (781) 981-3495
Email: timhall@mit.edu

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Thanks, Brad.  

You bring up a good point about the value of the added accuracy that DGPS
gives us over GPS.  I think that even though most climbers will not have
DGPS, added surveying accuracy benefits all users.

The error we get while surveying is completely uncorrelated with the error
someone gets while looking for the site.  So the error a user will see is:

Survey      User      Error
----------------------------
DGPS        DGPS      ~7m
DGPS        GPS       ~26m
GPS         DGPS      ~26m
GPS         GPS       ~35m

So the very few (probably none) DGPS users will get a great improvement if
we use DGPS.  GPS users will also get a significant advantage.

Another important thing to remember is that this book has not been updated
in 20 years.  Probably every climber will have DGPS in 20 years (probably
more like 5) and/or SA will be turned off and ordinary GPS receivers will
be as good as DGPS receivers are today.

Ok, this probably a lot more nerdy than I needed to get, but there is an
argument for us going to the trouble of surveying using DGPS.

--Tim

At 05:24 PM 7/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I could help. I have a handheld GPS that is supposed to have differential
>capabilities, but I don't have that hardware (andneither do most other
>climbers) so I wonder how the extra accuracy will help. I have marked some
>climbs already. But more in terms of getting to a cliff that is hidden than
>the individual climbs which can be 5 feet from each other. Having one climb
>well marked is useful for finding others though.
>
>-brad
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Timothy D. Hall [mailto:timhall@MIT.EDU]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:02 PM
>> To: bostonrocks@MIT.EDU
>> Subject: GPS surveying of climbing sites
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Susan Ruff suggested that we survey the climbing sites and asked me if my
>> receiver could be borrowed for this purpose.  I am more than willing to
>> lend out my receiver for this purpose.  We should decide if it worth the
>> effort.
>>
>> I am not sure how *useful* accurate cooridinates would be for
>> climbers, but
>> I think it is fabulous for marketing the book - "New edition with GPS
>> coordinates".  What do you think?
>>
>> Susan told me that stand alone performance (25 meter) of GPS was not
>> adequate.  A couple of weeks ago I built up a cable to interface a DGPS FM
>> reciever that we have here at Lincoln to my GPS receiver.  With this setup
>> we can get about 5 meter accuracy.  Unfortunately, I had to turn this DGPS
>> unit over to another group today.
>>
>> I am sure I can beg, borrow, or steal another DGPS unit, but I need to be
>> convinced that you folks want to pursue this.  I don't feel like I can do
>> the surveying myself because I have never even seen the sights, much less
>> climbed them.  I would like to train a few of you climbers and have you do
>> the work. :-)
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> --Tim
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________________
>> Timothy D. Hall
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> Cell: (617) 233-5027 (if no answer, call lab #)
>> Home: (617) 225-8427 (806-5-8427 from Lincoln phone)
>> Lab:  (781) 981-4402 (181-4402 from MIT phone)
>> Fax:  (781) 981-3495
>> Email: timhall@mit.edu
>>
>
>
_______________________________________________________
Timothy D. Hall
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cell: (617) 233-5027 (if no answer, call lab #)
Home: (617) 225-8427 (806-5-8427 from Lincoln phone)
Lab:  (781) 981-4402 (181-4402 from MIT phone)
Fax:  (781) 981-3495
Email: timhall@mit.edu

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Well great.

I'd be happy to do the surveying if you decide to go ahead. I support the
idea and would coordinates myself were they available.

-brad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy D. Hall [mailto:timhall@MIT.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:44 PM
> To: bradiko@MIT.EDU
> Cc: bostonrocks@MIT.EDU
> Subject: RE: GPS surveying of climbing sites
>
>
>
> Thanks, Brad.
>
> You bring up a good point about the value of the added accuracy that DGPS
> gives us over GPS.  I think that even though most climbers will not have
> DGPS, added surveying accuracy benefits all users.
>
> The error we get while surveying is completely uncorrelated with the error
> someone gets while looking for the site.  So the error a user will see is:
>
> Survey      User      Error
> ----------------------------
> DGPS        DGPS      ~7m
> DGPS        GPS       ~26m
> GPS         DGPS      ~26m
> GPS         GPS       ~35m
>
> So the very few (probably none) DGPS users will get a great improvement if
> we use DGPS.  GPS users will also get a significant advantage.
>
> Another important thing to remember is that this book has not been updated
> in 20 years.  Probably every climber will have DGPS in 20 years (probably
> more like 5) and/or SA will be turned off and ordinary GPS receivers will
> be as good as DGPS receivers are today.
>
> Ok, this probably a lot more nerdy than I needed to get, but there is an
> argument for us going to the trouble of surveying using DGPS.
>
> --Tim
>
> At 05:24 PM 7/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >I could help. I have a handheld GPS that is supposed to have differential
> >capabilities, but I don't have that hardware (andneither do most other
> >climbers) so I wonder how the extra accuracy will help. I have
> marked some
> >climbs already. But more in terms of getting to a cliff that is
> hidden than
> >the individual climbs which can be 5 feet from each other.
> Having one climb
> >well marked is useful for finding others though.
> >
> >-brad
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Timothy D. Hall [mailto:timhall@MIT.EDU]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:02 PM
> >> To: bostonrocks@MIT.EDU
> >> Subject: GPS surveying of climbing sites
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Susan Ruff suggested that we survey the climbing sites and
> asked me if my
> >> receiver could be borrowed for this purpose.  I am more than willing to
> >> lend out my receiver for this purpose.  We should decide if it
> worth the
> >> effort.
> >>
> >> I am not sure how *useful* accurate cooridinates would be for
> >> climbers, but
> >> I think it is fabulous for marketing the book - "New edition with GPS
> >> coordinates".  What do you think?
> >>
> >> Susan told me that stand alone performance (25 meter) of GPS was not
> >> adequate.  A couple of weeks ago I built up a cable to
> interface a DGPS FM
> >> reciever that we have here at Lincoln to my GPS receiver.
> With this setup
> >> we can get about 5 meter accuracy.  Unfortunately, I had to
> turn this DGPS
> >> unit over to another group today.
> >>
> >> I am sure I can beg, borrow, or steal another DGPS unit, but I
> need to be
> >> convinced that you folks want to pursue this.  I don't feel
> like I can do
> >> the surveying myself because I have never even seen the
> sights, much less
> >> climbed them.  I would like to train a few of you climbers and
> have you do
> >> the work. :-)
> >>
> >> Let me know what you think.
> >>
> >> --Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> Timothy D. Hall
> >> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> >> Cell: (617) 233-5027 (if no answer, call lab #)
> >> Home: (617) 225-8427 (806-5-8427 from Lincoln phone)
> >> Lab:  (781) 981-4402 (181-4402 from MIT phone)
> >> Fax:  (781) 981-3495
> >> Email: timhall@mit.edu
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________________
> Timothy D. Hall
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> Cell: (617) 233-5027 (if no answer, call lab #)
> Home: (617) 225-8427 (806-5-8427 from Lincoln phone)
> Lab:  (781) 981-4402 (181-4402 from MIT phone)
> Fax:  (781) 981-3495
> Email: timhall@mit.edu
>


